F430 Hydraulic F1 Pump Failures - Reality or Myth?

It could be hysteria but for only $300 it was worth it to alleviate the risk.


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Hey Bruce, I hope you’re doing well. I’ve been considering the same so please let me know if you get one. Cheers.


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I am in the same boat as you guys. Interested to see if the F1 hydraulic pump failure is common with the original relay switch... Would like to purchase the solid state relay if the original relay does really fail on owners cars.

 

The solid state relay is not only helpful with the sticking relay problem. It also monitors the system and early detects abnormal pressurizing caused by other issues. Yes, the warnings are a bit irritating and get ready to explain to everybody who rides in the car what the beeping is all about.

You can also get the basic version which as I understand beeps only when there really is an issue.

 

Bruce,

Thank you for attaching the link to the article. Very informative!

So Ferrari changed the failure prone 30 amp relay for a 50 amp relay on all the 430 gen F1 transmissions?
Does that mean that the higher amp relay will not fail causing F1 pump damage?

 

I've read so many threads on this so i will try and summarize what I learned.

The OE mechanical relay can get stuck and fry the F1 pump (expensive).
Thanks to Scud Ing Swiss for making a solid state relay that only resolves the relay sticking issue but it also monitors the F1 system for any abnormality based on Ferrari F1 System specs.

The beeps can be annoying but its simply telling us that the F1 system is not operating per Ferrari specs so its a good idea to watch for it.

When you get the beeps you have the option to silence it, or have your F1 system checked as it could be the known failures like the Hydraulic Accumulator going bad, E Diff Control Valve going bad, or you have a slight leak somewhere in the system.

As mentioned above, $300.00 is a worthy investment in my opinion to address the OE relay getting stuck issue.

Dan

 

The beeps are present even if there is no issue. There are fault beeps and pressurizing beeps.

 

Sorry I failed to explain further.

I have turned off all my default beeps except for fault beep and pressuring beeps.

 

Solid state > mechanical in my business (computer storage) as far a performance and reliability. Faulty or not, I used the same logic in having this relay upgrade. For me, no way would I not have it.

 

mine failed in my 06 at about 17k miles

 

when you say pump you are referring to the solenoid failure correct?

 

Me too. The beeps are still annoying though.

 

Ferrari changed over to 50 amp F1 pump relays in November 2003 (around AN 52556, SN 1351XX) on the 360, Challenge Stradale, and 575M. That 50 amp relay is also used in the engine compartment of some Ferraris and has been pretty reliable. All the F430s should have the latest relay, but Ferrari also changed from the 360 pump to an upgraded version on the F430 at AN 61589 (around SN 144XXX) around September 05 when the 360 pump proved marginal for both F1 and E-Diff.

 

II’m convinced that the pump failures are almost always due to something else. At least in my experience I had a couple of issues on my car regarding the F1 system and none of them were related to the pump. I had a Edif solenoid go bad, I had a couple of solenoids in the f1pack go bad, And it seems all of them were a result of a throw out bearing not being replaced during a clutch change. The clutch was changed right before I got the car by a dealer and when we pulled Everything a part The throwout bearing looked like it was the full 10 years old. I had that changed as well as a new clutch and restore the F1 system and since then everything has been perfect.

The dealer seems to want to replace the pump right away when these cars were new and it’s fine to do that but there are other solenoids that if jammed can back up the system and lead to a pump failing... I believe a lot of pumps have been fine but have been replaced as a first response to F1 system issues. Most of the drivers wouldn’t even know because they don’t use the car is enough to have the issue start happening again before they pass the car to a new owner. Just my two cents unfortunately I had some experience with sorting my car out.

 

You have the option of unplugging the beeper / control module.

 

Yes but i still want the fault beeps.

 

Then I suggest you contact the maker and see if he can make that change.

 

Where is the best location to purchase a solid state 50amp relay for the 2006 F430. I have no problems and no lights but like you all say, its worth the money

 

i have 3x f1 360s and 1x 430 and a combined 50,000 kms over 6+ years, more than 50,000 km if you count the previous kms driven by previous owners. I've never seen a relay failure.