Pennzoil is 35 dollars per quart at my dealer. I am looking at other options, I need 10 quarts or liters Liqui Moly GT1 $42 for 5 liter jug ($8.4 per liter) Motul 8100 $46 for 5 liter jug ($9.2 per liter) Red Line $52 for 1 gallon and $15 for 1 quart, I need 10 so it would be $52+$52+15+15=$13.4 per quart Castrol edge supercar $14 per liter I am leaning towards the Motul 8100, for the money it seems like the best option and quality. Any input??
Why 10w60 Isn't 0w40 pennzoil euro recommend for our cars ..and that is less than 9 a quart in Amazon if you can't get it your local Walmart or Auto parts store Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
If you are looking for track / racing oil what about shell helix racing 10w60 or the BMW 10w60 both can be had on ecs , Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
Thanks that is $15 a quart, Anybody has experience with the oils I listed?? Motul seems to be a very good one and I use redline in my transmission. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You may consider also looking at the BMW forums for m cars and see what people have experienced there .. especially if you don't get the response you are looking for here I always heard from some Indies that liqui moly is a top shelf oil .. I don't think you can go wrong but that is not backed by any experience with it or technical research I think you may find what you looking for on the BMW forums Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
On my BMW M6 Coupe and M6 Cabrio I used Castrol 10w60 TWS Motorsport. Zero issues. My question is I dont see anywhere where Ferrari recommends 10W60 for our 360 and F430. So why switch?
My guess is that he is in San Diego and get really hot there. He probably runs it hard on the tracks.
Dan workshop manual states 10w-60 is suitable for track use and/or hot climates. And yes Flea is right where I drive it gets really hot Now Castrol is a good idea but lookin at BMW forums it seems Liqui Moly and Motul are better. I will try Liqui Moly as my mechanic thinks is better than Motul. And it is pretty fairly priced. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Bonus question: I have a few Castrol 10W-60 in my garage left over from my M6's. What happens if I use 10W-60 on my F430? I'm here in Seattle, gets warm in the summer, 80's and down to about 30's in winter.
Dan Since you don't track the car I would say you would be doing more bad than good if you use the 60 weight Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
He doesn’t need to track the car But if you ever drive it hard in hot climate and you see either high oil temperature and/or low pressure you might try it. Otherwise I don’t think you need it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Modern 5W-40 oil or even 0W-40 synthetic oil has no problems with high temperatures, which is why the factory recommends it. San Diego has a very mild climate compared to many places Ferraris are driven. You are overthinking the problem.
I don’t drive it in San Diego but near the desert and it gets extremely hot there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
10w60 is a bad idea. many believe this is the #1 reason for BMW rod bearing issue. modern 0w40, 5w40 and 5w50 are good for street cars. that said, 10w60 is good for track cars in warm weather. But I personally still prefer 5w50 . cheaper and more choices.
living in desert don't mean you don't run into cold weather. If you race at WSIR (one of your "local" track in the desert), it often drop below 0c in winter month. Heck, just last month, I was at CVR (even closer to you), and it was low 40F in the morning.
Yes my logic says 5w50 will be a better choice but 10w60 is the one recommended weight by Ferrari Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I called Blackstone Labs They checked their database for 360 engines, the most samples they had was obviously 5W-40 but they had 5 results for 10w-60 (the ones that had the name of the oil were Pennzoil) No samples had significant metal material BUT they were for short distances (300 miles at the most) so I assume people tracked their cars and sent the sample. The technician told me something I could do is monitor the oil every X miles I will send my sample of the 5W-40 and use the results as a benchmark. The sample will be around 5,700 miles by the time I change the oil. So I could monitor the oil every 1000 miles or so and if I see any kind of abrupt changes vs my benchmark just drain the oil and go back to 5w-40 She said if the oil is recommended by Ferrari it should not be any problem. Also Liqui Moly and/or Motul has the certification Fiat 9.55535-H3 Does this mean this is the Ferrari approved oil? They use a Fiat certification?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
+1, I would watch the oil pressures on cold start. A friend of mine and I tried Mobil 1 15w-50 in our F355 Spiders and on cold start, the oil pressures were over 110 psi! We dumped it and went to Mobil 1 0w-40. I've driven my previous 355 in Eastern WA in temps of 105F and never saw anything out of the ordinary for oil temp or pressure and I was in a group driving pretty darn hard to keep up (this was with factory Pennzoil 5w-40).
