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Montreal GP Pre-Race Discussion

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  1. ferrariformulauno

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    Ferrari and Red Bull go wild with its tyre selection for the Montreal Grand Prix
    By Balazs Szabo on 29 May 2018, 15:16




















    Ferrari and Red Bull drivers opted for the very exact tyre allocation for the forthcoming Canadian Grand Prix while their fierce rival Mercedes chose a very conservative selection of compounds.

    Pirelli will supply the teams with the trio of supersoft-ultrasoft-hypersoft which is identical to the trio seen ont he tight streets of the Principality of Monaco.
    The hypersoft is the Milan-based company’s softest compound which was introduced for the 2018 Formula One Championship. This compound showed a big leap in performance, but also in wear compared to the second softest of the range, the ultrasoft.

    Mercedes is the most convervative team with its five sets of hypersoft, five sets of ultrasoft and three sets of supersoft. Its rival Red Bull and Ferrari decided for eight sets of hypersofts. Interestingly, the number of sets of their supersoft and ultrasoft is also identical.

    Renault, Force India and Toro Rosso have same amount of hypersofts as the second and third-placed teams in the standings.

    Mercedes’ convervative and Red Bull’s/Ferrari’s aggressive choice follows the tyre-dominated Monaco Grand Prix where the hypersofts gave a significant increase in grip, but it also caused woes for some teams such as Mercedes in the race.

    Teams have to inform Pirelli about their tyre order 15 weeks before overseas races, which means they could not base their selection for the Montreal track on the Monaco experiences. After the hypersoft woes, Mercedes seems to have picked the right amount of hypersofts and Red Bull and Ferrari might be forced to use three sets of hypersofts on Friday and two sets of hypersofts in the final Saturday practice to even out the differences for the qualifying session and race.

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  2. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    According to Renault Ricciardos MGU-K can be used again despite Monaco issue. So he will avoid grid penalty at Montreal. Marko confident Red Bull can challenge Mercedes & Ferrari with low tyre deg, good traction & new Renault engine. --> AMuS


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  3. trumpet77

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    It just seems that the Hyper Softs will be a different animal in Canada, but who knows! Most likely we'll be back to Ferrari vs. Mercedes again. Still enjoying the battle for best of the rest, Haas say they have their first big upgrades coming too.
     
  4. G. Pepper

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    Everybody better hope this heatwave doesn't expand to up to Montreal. :)
     
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    I just hope Max keeps away from our cars...he must say i have no complaints about him at Mónaco! :)
     
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    Any bets on Lancelot on homesoil!?
     
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    Sure Pedro, I bet the Stroller going into free practice will blame the car. Then going into quali, will blame the car. Then after the race is done, unless he binns it, will also blame the car.

    So in a nutshell, he's going to blame the car the entire 3 days. :rolleyes:
     
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  9. johnireland

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    I don't think Renault/Red Bull have an engine that is capable of winning WDC or WCC...and if other teams up their games, RB could have trouble being the 3rd fastest cars on the grid. I'm rooting for Ferrari over Mercedes...but the two other teams with the same engine interest me more...Alfa Sauber and Haas. The mid pack teams are proving far more fun to watch, having better battles and giving a better show. I think Red Bull's use of Torro Rosso to develop the Honda engine might be bearing fruit, and unless Renault can come up with more horsepower, they may lose their fastest client. Canada should be a good show.
     
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  10. Bas

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    I predict very vocal complaints about how the car is undrivable...with his teammate half a second ahead of him.
     
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    The irony is, his worst scenario is a competitive car. "Be careful what you wish for" has never been so true as in his case.
     
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    I want to see how Gasly performs. So far I like him. It's been up and down, but he looked good at Monaco. It would be great if he could string together a couple races with good points.
     
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    I agree but Montreal is a horsepower track, let's see if the Honda has the oats.
     
  14. A348W

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    I'm sure there is far more in his bag of complaints beyond the car...
    - my drink is too cold;
    - my drink is too wet;
    - the sun is too bright;
    - everybody speaks French Canadian, I don't understand;
    - daddy; you promised me....!
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    I'm not one to bash people or join some of the inane threads on here, but this guys does really take the biscuit...maybe fairy cake!!
     
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    RedBull not getting engine upgrade at Canadian GP by Renault per Autosport



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  16. DF1

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    Renault's upgraded Formula 1 engine is ready for the Canadian Grand Prix but the French manufacturer is not convinced it is best for every team, "in particular Red Bull", to use it in Montreal.

    Although there are obvious advantages in upgrading for a power-dependent track like Montreal, the final choice will be influenced by the fact that some drivers have used different numbers of power unit elements.

    Even those who have only used one set so far have run different total mileages, for example due to first-lap incidents.

    "We've a new spec engine," Renault Sport F1 boss Cyril Abiteboul told Autosport.

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136408/renault-red-bull-may-not-use-upgrade-in-canada

    "We have yet to confirm the introduction, because the mileage is not the same across all cars, so we will see where and when exactly we will introduce that new spec.

    "I think we have six engines available, subject to the last event on procurement in the supply chain.

    "That's the plan, but not sure it's actually the best to introduce it in all six cars, in particular Red Bull. We need to look into that.

    "We always work in partnership with teams, trying to do the best for the overall season result.

    "It's a small gain in power, although we know we won't be the only one [bringing an engine upgrade].
     
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    Translation: you tell us you’re delaying your decision...we tell you we’re delaying your upgrade. Christian Horner will be livid. I like it!!
     
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    Already Renault had reliability problems and anticipates they will be using more engine than allocated this season.
    That alone, with the grid penalties coming from it, will prevent a Renault-engined car from getting near WDC or WCC winning position.
    But they can have a good race from time to time, and may disrupt the Mercedes-Ferrari duel.
     
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    Will Stroll hit the wall of 'blame' LOL :)
     
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