well they made even less 456s.... no ?
The SA Marranello that sold the other week for 850K Euros is actually over $1million USD. It makes no difference to me and I am not one to talk unrealistic values but, the 550 does tick all the boxes of a car that could achieve that figure and above in time. I couldn't care less either way. I remember around 2006-2008 several Lusso guys and other 330 guys offering to trade their "Enzo Era" cars for 550/575s.
Exactly, like I said I have some old dupont registries and in 2002-2004 365 daytonas and 246 were $90-120k and now we're at $300-600k? The maranellos will have their time, these cars are just not old, not new now. The last generation 575 is only 13 years old right now!
Ferrari offered a manual option on the California and had about 9 takers, so they gave up. The expense of putting a manual 6 speed into a Ferrari designed for a 7 speed DCT is considerable, and Ferrari has determined it is a waste of money based on those who pony up $220-500K for new Ferraris.
Can't use eBay for price or even sales determination for high end or low volume cars. Most posts are used as ads where transactions are finalized off eBay.
I don’t know about the California but I have read quite a few accounts of people who wanted to order a manual F430 and the dealers were talking people out of it and trying hard to discourage it. Had that not been the case maybe a lot more would have been ordered with a manual? Impossible to know.
Both the 575M and F430 had similar takes on three pedals at around 10% (11.9% overall 575M, 9.7% LHD) on LHD versions. The 360 was considerably higher at 25-30%. The 599 was way down at less than 5%, actually way less, even though the 3 pedal was available throughout production. On those F1 Ferraris, the transaxle and clutch were identical, making it easy to offer the 3 pedal version since all that was different was clutch actuation and shifting. The current market says new buyers, which is all Ferrari really cares about, are not interested in three pedal versions enough to warrant developing and selling one.
They are still Maranellos... I drove a buddies lastest tesla last week, and I must say,... THAT seems to be the future. If the 812 (On my wishlist) goes hybrid 12 or turbo 12 it would certainly be because Ferrari see the writing on the wall. On one hand, I don't see values of the last one going up significantly if electric takes over.
and a challange stradale is just a 360 a scuderia a 430 a speciale just a whatever the v8 version is like i said, the special editions are in a pricing class of their own
I can give you one good reason. The fact that my 550 is worth 2+ times what I paid for it and the appreciation covers every single penny I have spent on it, right down to the last gallon of fuel, several times over, is a cast-iron argument in its favour when discussing my car habit with my wife.
Every Civic, Accord, Mustang, MR2, RX7, Camaro, Corvette, and every BMW. with manual commands higher price in the used car market than automatic in comparable condition. Cursory review suggests premium prices paid for manual versions of those vehicles is about the same, give or take a few percentage points, as the premium paid in the Ferrari. Porsche, Lamborghini markets for manual over non-manual. What I conclude from this is the premiums paid for manual Ferraris is not an aberration peculiar to foolish Ferrari buyers who follow the herd and pay premium for manual, but a confirmation of the car enthusiasts rule that engaged driving is more fun than clicking or paddling unless you’re involved in racing where milliseconds off lap time means a lot more than the driving experience.
Those “take rates” are based on final production though, so there might have been a lot more people who wanted a manual but were talked out of it by their dealers or whatever. I agree most new buyers these days seem to not care about manuals, but that isn’t true with Porsche who specifically brought back the manual due to demand, and it isn’t true with a lot of buyers of various older models who are paying a significant premium for manuals. Anyway, we can get back to discussing the 550. It is an absolutely beautiful car.
My observation is the models listed in my post above are being bought by Gen Xers and younger. If true, then that implies continued interest in manual for at least the next 30 years. Beyond that, I'd be happy to still remember my name.
For the first time in Monterey, 3 years ago were surpassed (by Ferrari’s) as the most expensive cars on the grass.
I've tried to mention this, Im 32 almost 33, i was never taught how to drive a 3 pedal in the US. Would love to learn, but it was never something taught to my demographic.....I have my 575 F1 and its awesome, not sure how many 550's are gonna be able to be driven in the US when Im 70 years old..... you wanna talk values? A really nice 599 popped up near me and I went to look at it, same spec as my 575, awesome car and I was just curious what my 575 was worth in trade....2002, 21k miles red/tan....dealer offered me $70k!!!! When I laughed him off, he came up to $78k and told me it was a good deal that I should jump on lol. Anyways passed on trading in the 575 but somehow ended up buying a john cooper works mini anyways that I didn't even set out to buy lol Its rough out there now, but im confident things will get better soon in 575 land! PS the John Cooper Works Mini is a blast to drive, like a giant go kart
