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Philosophical Question: An LS Swapped Ferrari...

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Golden Steed, Jul 22, 2018.

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  1. Golden Steed

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    What is it?

    1) A Ferrari with a Corvette engine.

    2) A Corvette with a Ferrari body.

    3) An Abomination that should be burned with fire.


    I'm fairly certain I know what the purists are going to say...
     
  2. JTSE30

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    It appears that the owner considers it a Chevy- bow ties on front and back.
     
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    Like a fake Rolex with a timex movement... it's more accurate than the original right?
     
  5. Golden Steed

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    This is where the conversation gets interesting. What if you wanted a three pedal 458? A swap could accomplish this, and improve the horsepower, without losing the Ferrari's balance, handling, and styling. But would it still be a Ferrari?

    I think to make your analogy work, it would be like taking a real Rolex, gutting it, and putting an iWatch inside it.

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    It's still a real Rolex, only it's not...
     
  6. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    It's a Ferrari chassis with a Chevy engine. I don't get the purpose of it other than "just because."

    You could do the same with that watch analogy like above. Use a Rolex case with Timex movement...again makes no sense.
     
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  7. Mitch Alsup

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    Well, let's see:: LS7
    a) 500 HP instead of 380 HP
    b) 440 LB-FT instead of 256 LB-FT
    c) a bit lighter
    d) it fits.
     
  8. Golden Steed

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    Interesting. So by this reasoning, if someone LT4 swapped a 488 so they could have a stick and clutch pedal (they'd get 650 horses/torque out of it) might it be justified?
     
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  9. Jasonberkeley

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    I think the real answer is that there is no right answer. Its what makes the owner happy. Maybe it was a salvage 360 with a blown and toasted motor, and someone with the desire to have fun, build a cool car, and who isnt a purist, did it because he could and its fun and fast.

    May not be the right move for everyone, but if the builder and owner is happy, thats all that matters.
     
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    And probably more reliable
     
  11. Golden Steed

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    I agree with this. But I'm not a purist, so my opinion is probably suspect. I love customization. I think that's what makes the car hobby fun, seeing what people come up with.

    This is another point I hadn't gotten around to. Ferrari engines can be finicky. They are extremely expensive to fix when broken, finding a mechanic is difficult, and wait times at dealerships can be very long. Especially if you need a new engine.

    I know I'm speaking heresy here. But I think, as a 3 pedal stick enthusiast, that it might be an avenue worth exploring.
     
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  12. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I would miss the sound
     
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    And it will finish the race!!
     
  14. Texas Forever

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    There are engine builders who can get 1,000 hp out of a LS engine. Not for long, but it can be done.
     
  15. Texas Forever

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    There's that. A F360 at full scream sounds great. A LS V8 sounds like a prehistoric monster.
     
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    e) a lot cheaper to maintain
     
  17. Redneck Slim

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    People have been putting Chevy V-8s in Ferraris since the 1950s. And winning races with them.
     
  18. Mitch Alsup

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    They would still have to find a transmission with a clutch and figure out how to route the gear lever to the tranny.
     
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    Isn't that like a Pantera ...Italian body and usa engine ..that case Ford

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  20. Mitch Alsup

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    I have a <bar> friend that gets 3,000 HP from an 500" TRW block that lasts a whole <drag> racing season on alcohol.
    He holds the current record for 1/4 mile for <I think> 14" wheels on blown alcohol door slammers (low 6 seconds).
     
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    I think it's #2, a corvette in italian garb. Reminds me of the 'italian' corvettes that were almost put into production years ago. A ferrari is much more than the body style, so this is no Ferrari, not in any way.
     
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    Always with the chevys....What if the swap was the ford flat plane 5.2L??

    Some cars you cut, and some you don't.

    What did all the AC Ace purists say?

    sjd
     
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    Wow!


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  24. raines

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    IMHO, It's akin to putting a digital keyboard in an acoustic grand piano. All the bells & whistles but no soul.
     
  25. Golden Steed

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    I think these two quotes sum up the consensus. Some of us are just car choppers by nature. Classless neanderthals who just want what we want. I think I'd hesitate to cut the heart out of a Ferrari just because the engine is so germane to the theme of a Ferrari. I just wish you could still get an N/A stick shift. More fun. More sound. At the very least a supercharged option. Yes, turbos are more kinetically efficient. But cave man tech or not, superchargers preserve the noise.

    And I like the noise.
     
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