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Why have pin nut?

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  1. Saabguy

    Saabguy Formula 3

    Mar 28, 2012
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    So I am preparing to change the cam drive pulley bearing and after well over 2 minutes of searching I can find no good reason to actually have a pin nut vs the standard type fastener found on everything else used.

    Is there some really good reason? Is there not enough clearance in the pulley recess for a regular old socket and this was the compromise?

    Any input welcomed.
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

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    The more common term for that type of nut is a "ring nut". They are typically used on larger diameter rotating shafts as having the corners of a hex nut whizzing around isn't the best, and they can be used at intermediate positions along a long shaft between other items (i.e., they can be tightened from the side with a hook wrench). Not a requirement here as it's on the end of the shaft, and, being recessed into the sprocket, a socket has to be used, but can't really fault the engineers for selecting it IMO as it's sort of industry standard. Others have identified a fine-pitch, small-cross-section hex nut that can be substituted, but that's still sort of a "special" odd thing that you aren't going to be able to get at the local hardware store..
     
  3. Saabguy

    Saabguy Formula 3

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    Thanks Steve, the being used at intermediate positions I understand. I guess if ya have a box of 'em might as well use them. And as a replacement won't be forthcoming from NAPA or Home Depot... ;-)
     
  4. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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  5. Saabguy

    Saabguy Formula 3

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    At this point buying one more tool will require a new toolbox so, why not! :)

     
  6. andyww

    andyww F1 Rookie

    Feb 7, 2011
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    Actually I would ask the opposite question, why are ring nuts not in more general use?

    They are good engineering. The force applied acts directly on a tangent of the nut and so the applied torque can be very precise. On a hex the force which is actually turning the nut is a result of other forces which are trying to compress the hex shape into a circle.
     
  7. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    But the sum of the forces ends up the same, so the torque is the same ie, the wrench and the nut can be considered one unit, no matter what shape handles the coupling.
     

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