I have had it with this piece of junk!

Roger, I sympathise and know what you mean. Maybe you will be back in another F car one day, but for now you need to get rid of it.
...before all your switches go sticky!

 

And on that note my 360 has been wonderful. As reliable as my Boxster. What has broken on it? Surprised as my car was the cheapest on the market with no maintenance history, yet it seems more reliable than most $$$ examples here?

If your experience means you can judge all Ferrari's as junk, my experience means you're either a kid making all this up.. or someone who lets bad mechanics take advantage of them. More money than brains if you will.. and Dubai? Well.. that kinda supports my suspicions. It's a car.. and it's not that much different than a Toyota fundamentally.

 

So the car sat in a collection with 79 other cars that are also slowly disintegrating. Some of the problems you listed - steering column leak, front suspension leak, back suspension leak - those sort of things happen to cars over time when you don't drive them regularly. The rubber components rot. You won't see leaks on the floor, but once the car is driven and warmed up with parts moving rapidly - boom, that dried out seal gives up. Even when the car is driven, seals (and hoses) aren't all meant to last 10 years. Neither is oil, tires, fuel injectors, or many other things.

You've said the car was regularly maintained, but I'm wondering how much maintenance was involved for a car with less than 14K miles? I'm not looking at the OM, but I'm betting it's got a schedule that's based on the car be driven regularly, not dumped in a concrete cave and pulled out for the occasional cruise.

That's a bit like deciding all women should be avoided, because of my ex-wife.

I've owned 2 Toyotas (terrible paint, worst clutch life ever), Acura (mechanically fragile), and currently a 2008 Hyundai. Only the Hyundai has made it past 10 years without being dumped, and it currently has the same sticky interior issues that Ferrari owners face. The car has under 75K miles and the clutch hoses are dissolving from the inside out. The CV boots are leaking grease. Put it on a lift, you'll see rust. This is called "normal".

I drove mine 260 miles home from the dealer the day I bought it... mostly in the rain. The only time I called Uber was at the airport to get to the dealership.

You have a 10 year-old car. All cars need maintenance as they age. There's no magical car out there immune to this fact, including Toyota.

 

Whatever dude. Exactly what broke again? Your blinker fluid is leaking.. better get it fixed. Or better yet have your parents buy you a real car to get to summer camp.

 

LOL.. as expected.

 

A 1-day ban has been applied for this profane personal attack.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

vrsurgeon has also received a 1-day ban for inflammatory personal comments to bait rudyF599.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

A tad harsh, no?

 

Yes, but "I'm selling it and buying Toyota" is equally absurd.

 

He didn’t want to be reasoned with. He was here to bash the marque. He was a broken record. How many time does he need to proclaim his displeasure and his future car before we see that’s all he is here to do. He didn’t read F chat before getting the 599. That’s for sure or he’d know what the issues were. He was here to bash the cars and the marque. Clearly not a super car guy. He’s replacing it with a Camery ???!?! How does that make any sense.

 

I live in Dubai, we have 3 F cars and 2 L cars in the family. None have visited the dealer during our ownership. I would not trust the local dealer to check air pressures. I have seen how they do their work (and at what cost!). No thanks. Toyota does service better.

When a VIP client with 80 cars says dump this abused car so I can buy another new car from you this month, do you think the dealer will say no, I cannot sell it, that car has been abused? If you cannot find the sucker in the room, guess who the sucker is?

If you want to keep it, get a NOC from the RTA, send it plated on temporary export to Italy. Get a private garage to fix it (properly) for maybe 1/3 the cost of the local dealer (who cannot fix it). With your savings enjoy a driving trip in Europe. PM me if you want some shop names.

 

Understood.

 

I said harsh not absurd .....but I get what you're saying

 

Well.....that escalated quickly.

 

My current Ferrari is 8 years old and has 35k miles on it. Not a single problem. Plenty of others out there with the same experience.

Never buy a car you are going to be driving from a car collector with 80 cars. That means its not being driven and thats not good for a Ferrari.

When discussing Ferraris pre-2010 I would always choose a 30,000 mile car over a 5000 mile car.

 

Rudy, if you can afford 10 Ferrari 599 WHY did you not buy a newer model?! Maybe you meant that you can afford 10 Toyota?

 

You mean to tell us that in all 20 years of prepping to buy a Ferrari you never learned that they break!?!

Sorry, couldn't resist. It sucks when your car breaks down, and long shop times are a common headache with ALL older exotics. I know guys who've had old 911's in the shop for a year.

In all seriousnness, if you really love Ferrari's - buy 3 more Ferrari's. When one or two are in the shop you can drive the others. Eventually you'll sort them out so they'll be more reliable. And if you buy different models you'll have different experiences - maybe an 80's car for fun, a 458 or an F12 for reliability, and if you really want to suffer, maybe an older 70's car. That's what I'd do if I could afford 10 Ferrari's.

Or, put some sweet rims on that Yaris, lower the suspension, add some giant speakers in the back and really murder it out...you'll be the freshest homeboy in all of Dubai.

 

Why buy a Ferrari in Dubai?

 

The unsaid issue is Ferrari does little or no testing on new cars. Yes, they run the engines, but that’s about it. Ferrari is an extremely low volume manufacturer. Toyota probably crash tests more cars than Ferrari makes. Then when you add on the reality most new Ferrari buyers park their cars, instead of driving them, most problems do not come to light during the warranty period.

My suggestion when buying an out of warranty Ferrari is to: (1) look for a car that was driven enough under warranty to flush out the inherent problems, or (2) consider buying the Ferrari warranty. These are incredibly expensive cars to fix.


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The fit and finish in my buddies 458 would give Lexus, BMW, Mercedes a run for their money (actually, Ferrari blows them all away) We don't see too many 599 owners bashing the car aside from Sticky parts. Guessing the party servicing this car doesn't know what they are doing.

 

I think he’s a troll

Just my opinion