All Electric F1: Will you watch (POLL)

Yep, you have to take it as it: a childish provocation to get a reaction, and possibly someone banned for speaking his mind.

Talking about pollution ...

 

Well that’s great your a real saint.

 

I will watch only when they can run a complete 200 mile race at full speed on a single charge.

 

200 miles of bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, bzzzzzzzzzzzzz, bzzzzzzz, bzzzz, bzzz. Mmmm, don’t think anyone will ever stay awake for 200 Miles, 200 metres would be a challenge

 

Let's see, it's the very same politicians that up to a couple years ago legislated to promote diesel cars. In France at one point 60% of new cars were diesel, now suddenly they are evil and dirty and have to be banned.
Do I trust these politicians to have done their homework this time around, when pushing battery electrics as the only, universal cure-all solution to mobility? Hmm, let's see... No.

CO2 doesn't cause any ailments, luckily isn't noxious. Otherwise drinking carbonated water would be a serious health hazard...

 

I agree Bas. I wrote to my MP some months ago on the electrification of the pass car world, and advised him that its foolish to pursue electrification when the nation has not addressed the production of electrical energy. For my simple marketing work, I looked into the UK power plant market and the UK doesn't have a lot of electrical production. And the lead time on a nuclear power plant is something like 20 years. No new coal fired plants, and nothing on natural gas which is still the cleanest available non-renewable source out there.

Forecasts I've seen indicate that 20% max of new cars will be electric in the future. And as Marchionne said not so long ago, electric cars are no cleaner than what is currently in production.

I hope F1 is smart enough to forget this hybrid stuff, and just go back to simple, cleaner and far more efficient internal combustion engines.

A friend advised me that consultancy firm has a prototype ICE engine on test that is 1/3 more efficient than anything on the market today. And I saw yesterday a new technology which digitally controls the intake valves, and if I remember, will post the link a bit later.

I think ICE petrol and diesel engines can be made more mechanically and fuel efficient, and cleaner.

 

Politicians are infuenced by the evidences presented to them by scientiists and the medical profession.
Think about it; why would they bring irrational legislation just to get the public against them if there wasn't a good reason?
People, I must say, are narrow minded and only want to hear what suits them.
CO2 and diesel particules are harmful; this has been amply demonstrated.
There will always be people who refute evidence and prefer to bury their head in the sand.
To this day, there are still people, for example, who don't accept the link between Tobacco and lung cancer. Duhhhhhhh
Reducing pollution and toxic emission is a good thing, IMO.
A politician who proposes it will get my vote.

 

For the last 50 years+ that I have been following the car industry, I kept hearing about new types of ICE engines, new distribution system, different type of valve train, different cycles, even the 5-stroke engine. I am sure the auto industry has been aware of these inventions, and had a look at them. For most of the time, only money was needed to develop the concept according to their inventors.
I haven' seen any of these new types of engine being adopted by the car makers, so allow me to be slightly skeptical .

But you are right about petrol and diesel car made cleaner. There are already solutions that have been succesfully tested on the bench.
They consist in capturing exhaust fumes, burning them, filtering the residues and releasing only non toxic gases.
These systems have one fault apart from the added cost: they are heavy and voluminous.
On a VW Golf, for example, the exhaust epuration system would add up to 150kg to the weight of the car, and take all the luggage space.
Unless they manage to "miniaturise" this epuration system, it's a no-go as far as the car industry goes.

 

Electricity means clean energy AT THE POINT OF USE, is what I said.

 

Here's the link:

https://newatlas.com/camcon-digital-iva-valve-system/55827/

 

Some good points, I worked on the supplier side of the automotive industry (both over the road and on the road). Nothing too fancy but was involved in the early development of solenoid actuated automatic transmissions. I even worked for a wanna be auto trans developer who spent a lot of money, and never went into production. Partly the design, partly the guys doing the design and partly the technology, it was past its sold by date.

But one thing is for sure, car makers don't take risk. They want to be fast followers but the initiators of new technology. If you look at electro-hydraulic / electric steering, the Chrysler 300 was to have (from memory) electro-hydraulic or electric steering in 1988 or 1989, and it didn't happen. And it took another 15 years or so before this new technologies were put into production.

Remember how long it took airbags to go from development to production, literally 30 years. And a lot of money spent.

 

That's very interesting!

As to eF1, only when they can complete a full grand prix race distance and are setting faster laps than the ICE/hybrids. If it isn't an objective improvement, it isn't the pinnacle of motorsport.

Glad to see some of you guys discovering Moto GP. I've subscribed to VideoPass since they started it, and watch all three races. The Moto 2 bikes sound better than the F1 cars.

 

I started watching MotoGP a few years back and then the main broadcast channels dropped it. I can only get it now live when Eurosport Deutschland run it live which is once every few races. At least its interesting to watch, plenty of passing, and excitement.

 

That statement alone has caused me to ignore anything you say from now on.

Politicians are influenced by what keeps them in power and fills their wallet.

 

NO.

 

You can't subscribe at motogp.com ?

 

Does ICE stand for Internal Combustion Engine? If so, why not write it instead of using an acronym? Not to offend people here, but the constant use of acronyms and lack of proofreading denotes a lack manners.

 

Using ICE instead of writing it out might possibly be laziness, but it has nothing to do with manners.

 

Moving a problem to a place where it doesn't affect anymore is a good solution, IMO.
We do it all the time !!!

 

What keep politicians in power are the people who vote for them;.

When they step out of line, they get replaced, in my country at least.

"You can fool some people sometimes, but you cannot fool everybody all the time", or words to that effect.