CS-style carbon air box for 360

What your describing is the very rare factory option for carbon engine zone which included the carbon airboxes which look like what is fitted to the Challenge Stradale. Some have made aftermarket copies now.

The carbon boxes and engine dress (anodized blue) upgrades are actually a 360 Modena optional parts. Not CS specific.

In the CS case the lids are slightly modified to accommodate the larger air flow meters shared with F430/599 which screw on rather than use clips. These yield a few more hp at near max rpm that Modena's smaller AFM's (with appropriate remap).

 

RTuned has the CS type that fit a CS. However, they told me they can or have them to fit the regular Modena with the smaller MAFs. I'll find the info and PM you

 

Hi Wally,
Plz post info on the CS air boxes.
Cheers

 

Only info I have is a conversation between Richard Ho with RTuned and myself. He basically said the flange could be removed either by RTuned themselves or cut off by the end user and a typical silicon coupling could be used to connect the MAF to the box. At the time of the conversation, they did not have a CS lid for a non-CS car.

Just for giggles, I did put the 360 MAF on the CS air lid box (flanged) using a large O-ring to seal the gap and it seemed to work. The longer neck of the CS lid was able to hold tension on the MAF to close the gap. Not sure if it was "sealed" so to speak. Good for pics but, I'm not sure I would leave it that way.

 

I bought a set from rtuned and they looked great but I sold the car before installing. I then sold them to another FChat member. I have some pics in a for sale thread a while back.


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Here you go. Very nice factory matching 1x1 weave.

Carbon Airbox Megasale!!!
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AFAIK there is no company offering carbon versions of the CS airboxes. The R-tuned ones as seen in the photos from the previous link are actually fiberglass with a thin layer of carbon on the outside to give the carbon look. I realize our covers do not have the CS ribs but they are 100% carbon and have a perfect finish that beautifully compliment the engine bay of the 360. Feel free to contact us for Fchat special pricing if you are interested in getting a set.

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As someone who had Carbonio lids and who currently has RTuned CS copies, I feel that I am in a position to comment on this. First off, both companies offer outstanding products and each has areas that I feel can be improved on. Now, in my discussions with Richard Ho of RTuned, I asked him detailed questions concerning his process for manufacturing CF parts. Below is an excerpt from an email between Richard and myself in which I questioned the manufacturing process and if their product is CF over fiberglass.

"Our production is vacuum prepped. We also use a mesh type of high grade fiberglass which is ultra thin and like a net type. not what you usually get on common FRP products. This is highly durable and strong material. If you want pure carbon fibre we can produce but you will be paying double. 95% of our customers are very happy with our grade carbon fibre as it is totally different to what is out there in the market. "

Now, as I said, I currently have the RTuned CS lids and I can tell you that the backside is indeed painted gloss black. However, I can see the weave of the carbon through the thin mesh Richard mentioned above. With the Carbonio lids, you could see the CF weave on the backside clearly. It was obviously sealed somehow, possibly with fiberglass resin as there were thin stands of seemed to be fiberglass present. When I held the RTuned lids up to a light, in some areas there was bleed through reminiscent of a LiteBox toy I had as a kid. Doing the same experiment with the Carbonio lids, resulted in similar bleed through just not quit as much.

I have seen some pieces of fiberglass with a CF overlay and am not impressed. In my opinion, this is not what the CS lids are from RTuned.

Just to add to the flames, here are some weights that I gathered....

715g OEM airbox lid
310g Carbonio CF lid (w/o silicon connector)
440g RTuned CF lid (longer neck and flanged)

 

I can tell you first hand from having R Tuned lids, they are junk. They crack at the base often and if you look, you can see light through the underside of the box. As with most things said to be carbon fiber, they are just overlays. I've unfortunately purchased this crap before I knew what I was getting into.

Carbonio is slightly a better finish. Though I've only seen these and not used them personally. The MAF's from a CS will work on a regular R Tuned lid. Though it will be very difficult to stretch the silicon sleeve over the MAF's. They are much larger than the standard 360.

I ultimately got sick of not having the correct mount to the MAF's and acquired a set of CS Lids through a friend. Once you have a set of factory carbon lids, you'll laugh at the quality of R tuned.

 

As I stated, I feel that I am in a unique situation where as I can compare both lids side by side. BOTH RTuned and Carbonio had light bleed through. BOTH appeared to have some type of backing other than pure CF. The finish on BOTH brands was comparable to each other.

As far as comparing to factory/OEM carbon, I agree somewhat. When comparing the quality, I would place OEM above MOST aftermarket companies--not just RTuned, except for the clear coat/lacquer/resin used but that's another issue.

Unfortunately, I don't have OEM lids and I am unwilling to spend the $4K to order them new and none of my friends have spare ones. I think it's great that you were able to source actual OEM units, but not everyone is in that same boat.

Somethings I will source aftermarket, some I will source OEM. I just received OEM carbon engine bay panels and the quality is second to none, as is the rest of the OEM carbon I have.

So, again, these are my personnel observations between the set of lids from RTuned and Carbonio that I have SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. I can't comment on anyone else's personnel experiences with either company or the products they have received.

 

I believe exotic auto recycling in Sacramento has a set for 1600 obo on eBay. But I completely agree, spending 4k for a brand new set is silly.

 

I hope not.....