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  1. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    he said he had...but not sure if it has been proven.....
     
  2. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Lando Norris to do FP1 for Mclaren.
     
  3. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Already warming up the seat is he!
     
  4. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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  5. Tifosi Ferrari

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  6. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    +1 the rain chassis overall this year appears to be Mercedes not Red Bull or Ferrari. Mercedes heat up the rear wet tires rather quickly it appears.
     
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  7. jcurry

    jcurry Two Time F1 World Champ
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    A straight line through a single point can go in any direction.

    Until more data is available, and consideration of varying conditions and driver effort can be properly evaluated, I'll remain optimistic on the ability of the Ferrari team to prevail.
     
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  8. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Update on the weather forecast, after checking the belgian weather sites this morning:
    Slightly better than anticipated:
    Friday, cold and with showers.
    Saturday, cold, intermittent rain in the morning only.
    Sunday, still cold, slightly less than expected (16°c) but it should be sunny with some clouds but no rain.

    It still can change, though; after all this is only wednesday...

    Rgds
     
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  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Not good at all.
     
  10. nerofer

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  11. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/138169/start-secret-or-cooling-trick-ferrari-grid-bag-ploy

    The Ferrari Formula 1 team's pre-race preparations at recent grands prix have prompted intrigue, with the team placing a cooling bag on top of its on-board camera.

    The bright yellow sack, believed to contain dry ice, has also been spotted on top of the car during pre-run preparations in the garage ahead of practice sessions and qualifying.

    With no other teams using cooling bags in this manner, there has been debate over whether Ferrari has found a clever performance gains or is using the bag as a diversion tactic to take the focus off something else.

    Ferrari's official explanation is that the bag cools the electronics in the on-board camera, but this has drawn a sceptical response as there have been no suggestions of the cameras overheating.

    Some have suggested Ferrari could be using the cooling bag to try to alter the ambient temperature inside the airbox to provide a temporary boost to engine performance.

    Earlier this year, F1's technical regulations changed to try to prevent teams from influencing airbox temperatures, amid fears that efforts could be made to super-cool air for better performance.

    Article 5.6.8 of the 2018 regulations states that engine plenum temperatures must now be more than 10 degrees higher than ambient temperature.

    There are some exceptions, as the rules state that the temperature does not have to be above this limit at all times of the event.

    "The first lap of the race, laps carried out whilst the safety car is deployed, pit in and out laps and any laps that are obvious anomalies (as judged by the technical delegate) will not be used to assess the average temperature," states the F1 rulebook.

    Could Ferrari have found a way to boost its engine performance for qualifying and the start of the race by cooling the air going into the power unit?

    Or could the cooling be related to the temperature of the MGU-H? If Ferrari is able to get more performance out of its energy recovery system in the early stages of a race by allowing it to run in a colder operating window, that could pay dividends.

    One other theory is that the cooling bag is being used not for an ultimate performance gain, but to help Ferrari keep hold of an existing advantage by blocking what its rivals can see.

    On-board footage from the German and Hungarian GPs showed that the camera bag blocks the lens, meaning Ferrari's pre-race preparations inside the cockpit and in particular its steering wheel settings were hidden from view.

    Ferrari has benefited from very strong starts in recent races, prompting deep investigations from rival Mercedes to try to recover the ground it had lost.

    One area of intrigue surrounding Ferrari's strong starts has been the use of an extra control element that is hidden below a silicon covering on the front of the team's wheel - highlighted in the below drawing from Giorgio Piola.

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    Analysis of the race starts of both Ferrari drivers shows them engage this control (which is either a button or a fulcrum) with their thumbs (Sebastian Vettel on the left and Kimi Raikkonen on the right) once the start sequence is under way, and then release it once the five red lights have gone out.

    What this control does is unknown, but it is a new element for this year and it is most likely being used to help the drivers achieve the perfect getaway - either through helping them pin-point a clutch bite point or through how the clutch itself is released.

    With overtaking so hard in F1 this year, gaining places at the start has taken on an increased importance - making it logical that Ferrari might do all it could to keep the secrets of its strong getaways hidden.
     
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  12. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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  13. stibbett

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    My buddy and endurance co-driver has full garage access/hospitality passes. I'm super jealous. :p
     
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  14. johnireland

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    One area of intrigue surrounding Ferrari's strong starts has been the use of an extra control element that is hidden below a silicon covering on the front of the team's wheel - highlighted in the below drawing from Giorgio Piola.

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    Analysis of the race starts of both Ferrari drivers shows them engage this control (which is either a button or a fulcrum) with their thumbs (Sebastian Vettel on the left and Kimi Raikkonen on the right) once the start sequence is under way, and then release it once the five red lights have gone out.

    What this control does is unknown, but it is a new element for this year and it is most likely being used to help the drivers achieve the perfect getaway - either through helping them pin-point a clutch bite point or through how the clutch itself is released.

    With overtaking so hard in F1 this year, gaining places at the start has taken on an increased importance - making it logical that Ferrari might do all it could to keep the secrets of its strong getaways hidden.[/QUOTE]


    That steering wheel is disgusting...it reflects everything wrong with F1.
     
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  15. E60 M5

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    Joe and John thanks again for great pics and graphics!! This thread rocks! Bring on the weekend!!
     
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  16. Jack-the-lad

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    Thanks again for the pictures, Joe.

    Speaking of name changes, has there been any talk about a completely new name for Force India?
     
  17. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    19C with a few clouds now for the race Sunday. Small chance of showers for Saturday morning so maybe a dry qualy
     
  18. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/uncertainty-over-force-india-as-spa-looms/

    Force India’s legal issues must be clarified within the next 24 hours or the team faces missing the Belgian Grand Prix this weekend.

    In an unexpected turn of events, prospective buyer Lawrence Stroll has missed the two-week deadline to seal the takeover as consent from a total of 13 Indian banks is needed for the deal to be finalised.

    Drinks company Diageo have also filed a lien, which is the right to keep possession of property until a debt is discharged, that relates to a loan between themselves and Dr Vijay Mallya and has also slowed down the takeover process.

    In a bid to keep the takeover heading in the right direction, Stroll has bought all the assets, from cars to equipment, he has everything required for the team to go racing apart from the crucial race entry which still technically belongs to Force India.

    As it stands, Force India as we know it remains in administration and has no physical assets.

    The race entry has also proven to be an early sticking point in the takeover deal as Renault, McLaren and Williams had all disputed the prize money and commercial rights being transferred to Force India’s new owners.

    The current FIA regulations do allow late entries to the grid, but only if a space becomes available, which it will as Force India are essentially replacing themselves.

    Force India logos and references to Vijay Mallya’s companies Kingfisher and UB Group have been taken down from paddock area ahead of the Belgian Grand Prix weekend.
     
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  19. jgonzalesm6

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  20. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The FIA have installed a sensor at Turn 4 to prevent drivers from cutting the kerb in qualifying [laps will be deleted] and in the race "On the third occasion of a driver cutting behind the apex during the race he will be shown a black and white flag,"

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    FIA - If a driver overshoots the corner at turn 5 there is a small road along the front of the tyre barrier which leads back on to the track at turn 7.

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