I couldn't make it but my friend showed my 206 Gt at Concorso Italiano today. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Honestly if that was 2nd.... I was love to see how 1st was better? Sent from my SM-G960U using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Back in 2000, I showed my former Dino at the Concorso Italiano and they used FCA judging (Platinum, Gold and Silver awards). There was no award for first, second, etc. When did the Concorso Italiano start ranking cars and handing out awards accordingly?
Image Unavailable, Please Login Is the “2nd Place-Ferrari” for all Ferraris being judged or is this for the judged Dinos?
Freeman, Congratulations on the debut of your new RUF CTR. You did a masterful job of scaling up the old 964-based Yellow Bird. You are too modest to call attention to this masterpiece, but you deserve recognition for a magnificent accomplishment. Jon, Your 206 is simply smashing! Congratulations to you as well. Regards, Fred
Judging was odd. FCA did give out platinum awards, but the show itself gave out “second and third place awards” too, much earlier in the day. Basically someone walked by Jon’s car and slapped an award on it without any judging.
At Concorso Italiano, there's the as expected FCA judging. Separately, Concorso Italiano itself hands out 1st, 2nd, 3rd for each marque and uses their own people for evaluation. They do not take the normal approach to judging (having you start the car, check the lights, etc, etc). It's purely a visual inspection style of judging. I also took home a Concorso Ferrari 2nd award several years ago which is how I learned about it.
A “second” in the Ferrari class is a great compliment! I would imagine that there were quite a few Ferraris at Concourso! Not bad for “almost a Ferrari”! Freeman
Fred, Thank you. Basically the same size as the original CTR but wider in the hips. There’s a lot of hidden innovation that we developed into the body. We brought the shoulder out 30mm on each side while keeping the roof/side windows the same dimension/shape as the original CTR. This gave us more room in the whole body side and better aero. Made the flairs look more integrated and flowing like a Carrera vs added on like a Turbo. The car width is about the same as a 959, OAL is the same as the original CTR but with a longer wheelbase. We brought the larger wheels/tires up into the body ala 935. The OAH is lower than the original CTR. I wanted every detail to be an engineered functional evolution from the original CTR thus retaining the visual DNA. The body is shrink wrapped around the technology and passengers. This is the “Readers Digest” explanation. Now...back to Jon’s fantastic 206!!! Freeman
Ron and Mark are both correct. We were next to OMGJon's 206. Our Dino underwent full FCA judging, and we received a Platinum award with our Blue Dino Metallizatto 246, as did a Blue Sera Dino (Mark's?) that was placed two Dinos away from Jon's/Chris's Dino. I will be posting some photos later, but I am waiting for confirmation on the names of the owner of the other Dino that was awarded a Platinum, along with the list of all of the other Dinos present. In Jon's case, we watched as one person walked through all of the Ferraris and the Dinos nearby and spent between 1 to 2 minutes walking around his car. There was no inspection of any sort for authenticity, originality, documentation, operational functions, etc., and nothing was opened or tested. Chris (who brought Jon's Dino) had left and when he came back there was a yellow paper placed under the windshield wipers. The FCA Dino judging started a few hours later after the 3 judge team that judged the Dinos had first finished examining all of the 308s being judged. They were very thorough, and each team is usually limited to judging only 9 to 10 cars max. Other FCA teams were judging the other Ferraris present who had signed up to be officially judged by the FCA. It was a nice experience, and although you may believe you know more than the judges (which often is the case) this team had a fair amount of experience and the lead judge had spent time with Matthias Bartz in 2015 (I believe) when he was at Concorso Italiano and obviously had learned a fair bit about Dinos. I enjoyed talking to the judges and they asked very informed and considerate questions. I am well aware, however, that that is not always the case. On balance, I would recommend that Dino owners go through the experience because you might learn more about your Dino from the judges than you thought you would. Just treat it as a learning experience rather than a battle.
Hey Mark - Was the Blue Sera Dino yours? If so, I have a couple of things I wanted to share with you. Please contact me through my profile. Also, did you see the artist that sketched and did a watercolor of our Dino? We had no idea anyone was sketching our Dino until someone asked me to get away from it just after the judges had left. I was annoyed and when I turned around to see who asked me to move, there was a woman pointing slightly up hill to the artist. I found out later that she had been commissioned by Greg Whitten to do his ERA, by Fiskens to do their Christmas Cards, by Lime Rock for vintage racing posters, by Stirling Moss for the opening of a restaurant he is involved with, by Red Bull for their F1 team, and that she does events all over Europe and the UK. Mark (another Mark)
The painting (water color) was for sale. She also did several other cars at Quail and Pebble Beach. OMGJON's 206, Tish and Tom's (TNT) and several other Dinos are in the background too.
Mark and Mark - would love to see photos of both of your platinum winning Dinos if you would be so kind!