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  1. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Well; after I test drove a friend's 550 in April, I was tempted to sell one of my two 328s a look for a 550; yes these are trading - more or less - at the same actual prices these days. But, should I have "only" one 328, I wouldn't trade it for a 550, no.
    I always loved the 550 very much, one of the last beautiful Ferraris to my eye; but a 328 and a 550 are too different. I drove my 328 GTB the day after the 550 test-drive, and the feelings are so different that they are not comparable: they serve a totally different purpose, but they do complement each other very nicely.
    I - very vaguely - know a person who has a 550 and a 328: that's a very good choice for a pair of F-cars...

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  2. Albert-LP

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    I have no idea, sorry: maybe it was one of the names they were evaluating for the model and that was a print mistake.

    The car is a "308 GTO", whatever name it has

    ciao
     
  3. Brian A

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    Your post piqued my curiousity and I searched eBay for that Swiss advertisment. Apparently the advertisement lists on its back side 5 or 6 other Ferraris the Swiss dealer had for sale of 1978 to 1983 vintage. I am not an authority, but I expect the "308 GTO" title is just a typographic error.

    I liked the photo and "typo" so much, I bought the advertisement from eBay. $20.
     
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  4. Albert-LP

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    I don't know: there is possibility that at first they wanted to call the car 308 GTO and then changed their mind for the name into 288 GTO. Or it was just a print error, who knows.

    What I know 100% (and there is written on my book) is that at first development stage the GTO had to be much closer to the 308 than the car we know. But the result wasn't good enough so they changed the project leader and restarted everything... More on my book… (sorry) ;)

    https://www.hoepli.it/libro/ferrari-le-turbo-otto-cilindri-1982-1989/9788827844403.html

    ciao
     
  5. PDB

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    I wouldn’t swap my 308 GT4 for a 488, or any other new/recent Ferrari for that matter. The new cars hold absolutely no appeal to me whatsoever.
    They’re very quick and very clever, but have no style in my view.
    In a new Ferrari, everyone hates you, but in my Dino I’m constantly getting waves and thumbs-up from other people.
    At some point, I’m determined to get a 365 GTB/4, but I’ll still probably keep my Dino.

    Paul
     
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  6. Rosey

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    You make a good point Paul, in a classic Ferrari you make people point and smile and you always get let into spaces in the traffic. In a modern model you don't always get a positive reaction. People look at you, no question, but I feel with contempt and jealousy rather than with genuine admiration.
     
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  7. barabba

    barabba Formula Junior

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    As much as I love my 328, I would swap it in a nano second for a Scud or a Pista. The truth is a 328 will (most probably) never be that valuable.
     
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  8. Rosey

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    Forgetting the value, would you swap it purely for it's looks, performance and the driving experience?
     
  9. warrenz

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    Jodi Todt is THE GREATEST and hes in charge of production Cars!!!!!
    Thank You Piero
     
  10. AC6

    AC6 Formula Junior

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    I have a 328GTS and a F430 F1. The 430 is no 488, but the things it offers over the 328, like being more modern, faster, more comfortable etc. makes it a reasonably similar comparison, I think.

    Every time I think about downsizing and selling one, it is always the 430 that would go and never the 328. While I love my 430 (my first Ferrari, my wedding car etc.), I think the 328 comes from a much more interesting period of Ferrari's history, where the brand was relatively more exclusive and, for the same reason, provided a bigger wow factor back then. Of course, being gated also helps the 328's case!
     
  11. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I thought the displacement was smaller. Something about the two turbos.

    I cant remember exactly but there was a write up on this a short while back on all this. It was this year.
     
  12. nerofer

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    The capacity is only very slightly smaller, at 2.855 cm3 vs 2.926 for a 308 engine, so only a paltry 71 cm3 less.
    The capacity is another argument to believe the theory that the 288 was indeed built to race in the Group B: the first class of the Group B was limited to 4.000 cm3, and the FIA "conversion coefficient" for turbocharged engines used for that Group at that time was 1.4; 2.855 x 1.4 is 3.999 cm3.

    Rgds
     
  13. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I always thought it was a Group B intention. Is this not the case?
     
  14. nerofer

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    There are some people who doubt it, as for the 288 GTO road car that we know. They are of the opinion that "some" car might have been developped and raced in Group B indeed, but that the 272 GTOs produced, as we know them, were destined for road use since the beginning.

    Rgds
     
  15. HotShoe

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    IMO they are world's apart. You might as well say an F40 is a 308. I've driven a 308 QV, a 288 and an F40. They might share some DNA and underpinnings but they are a whole different evolution.
     
  16. roobarb

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    The new Ferrari are impressive..but the older the Ferrari the more loveable they are.
     
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  17. Battleweapons

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    Hello

    To confirm part of the comments I read, I own a Blu Pozzi 458 Italia and I actually am considering to look for a similar spec 308 to enjoy both worlds... 308/328 are definitely historical steps in Ferrari’s legacy...
     
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  18. Adupont

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    If I had to choose and couldn't sell either I would stick with my 78' 308 GTS.
     
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  19. Nope. I bought my 328 new, and to give it up means giving up all the good memories I have with it. It's unrestored and in perfect condition. Besides, who wants a sports car without a gear shift? I love shifting gears in the 328. Besides, people yell "Magnum PI" when I drive by, and everyone instantly recognizes it as a Ferrari. The new ones, one has to look at the badge to see what it is.
     
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  20. Rosey

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    Wow, tell a bit more about your original one owner car. Year, colour, miles, etc...
     
  21. lib308

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    def no, as great as the new tech cars are, they dont have the same character as the enzo cars.
    I wouldnt even swap my 308 for a 328. (yes, I know the 328 was an enzo era car also).
     
  22. nerofer

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    But "Blu Pozzi" wasn't available on 308s. In fact, it wasn't invented at the time. So you would have to settle for the next best thing, the beautiful "Blu Sera" ("late evening Blue")
    Rgds
     
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  23. Formula Uno

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    That's impressive;)

    What was it like driving the 288, comparing it to your 308?
     
  24. Dino246gt

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    But..... I WOULD trade my 308GTB for a 288! I really love the 288, but of course that'll never happen.
     
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  25. Albert-LP

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    288 GTO had to race: It didn't happen, but he was born to race. Please order a copy of my book "Ferrari - LE TURBO OTTO CILINDRI (1982-1989)", where Giuliano Michelotto tells the real story about the 288 GTO... ;)

    ciao
     
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