Sure, John, but the remote starters are for the owners' convenience, not the engines' longevity.
My 2p worth = on my 355 I wait till the high pitched whistle stops (2 - 3 minutes) then drive off at low rpm / high gears until oil temperature is at 12 o'clock position then cane it thru 8000 rpm
Getting tired here of playing ping-pong. Do as you like. I know what i learned from my degree. Rest my case. Cauf out.
I think everyone is correct. No one is admitting to understanding that everything has levels of,engine deterioration. Examples are Starting engine in colder weather wears it out more than hotter weather R egular oil wears out engine faster than fully sythetic 0 30 Reving engine to 8500 wears it out quicker than reving to 4000 Etc etc I am going to start it and warm up for 5 min then drive for about 10 then wear the **** out of it at 8000 Then in 35 years when the mileage is about 80 000 miles I will rebuild the engine and figure out it only cost me 600 bucks a year but I enjoyd it lots. You could also not drive it ever and the engine will last forever as well I guess. So as I said I kinda agree with everyone, now time to wear these babys out!!!!
a warm up in winter or cold days is quite essential for protecting your car engine , just like speeding up your car gently
This has got to be the most inverted logic I have ever read. So warming up an engine is "the worst thing" you can do? Anyone who owns a 355 can tell you that the engine heats up faster when staionary. Ever been caught in a trafic jam? Temps climb. Now take a blast down the freeway. Temps drop. In my climate it gets cold in the winter. In addition to the heat exchanger doing its thing I actually want the heat soak from the headers and cats to help get the rest of the engine up to temp. This is better accomplished when idling than when airflow at speed removes the heat. And the gearbox is flanked by the cats, so idling for a few minutes also assists with heating up the gear oil via radiation. For those in the "drive it immediately" camp, why do you recommend keeping RPM down initially? Because the oil has not achieved proper operating tempurature-or as Bob the Oil Guy would say...it has not achieved proper thinness to provide adequate flow. And therefore it has not achieved its designed viscosity for engine lubrication (the higher number on multigrade oils). I personally want the "thicker" cold oil to warm up while RPMs are at a minimum (~1050) and the engine is not under any load versus driving like grandma (what is the lowest RPMs you can realistically drive a 355? 2500?) For those who reference acid buildup as a result of idling to warm up: sorry, I just don't buy it. For the record I change my oil 2x per year regardless of mileage using Motul and the OEM filter. Generally I drive 1500-2000 miles per year so I recognize this is overkill. But I want the cleanest engine internals possible. Finally I agree with Dave the car simply drives and responds better when warmed up. This is my 8th year with it and it runs/screams flawlessly. I'm gonna keep doing what I've been doing.
It's impossible to heat up faster idling. If the engine is producing more power (driven) it creates more heat than when it is producing minimal power (idling). Traffic vs freeway temps are due to airflow across the radiators which has nothing to do with warming up from a cold start. I start my car and pretty much immediately drive away. Keep rpm low and load light until oil is up to temp. If I had an F1 car and warming it up helped shifting would I do that? Of course. IMO the most important thing is -if- the car is started don't shut it off until oil is up to temp, and don't run it under heavy load and high rpm until the oil is up to temp. -How- it got up to temp is of minimal importance in comparison. If you prefer to warm it up idling it certainly will not hurt anything, nor will driving it immediately.
Stating that idling an engine - for any period of time - is "the worst thing you can do" is what I labeled inverted. On a 35°F day I do not believe my car warms up faster driving than allowing it to idle for a while. Even if this was not true I have already stated the reasons I prefer this method.
Any car will warm up faster driving vs idling regardless of ambient temperature. It is producing more power and therefore more heat, no way around that. Does it matter? I would say not much.
I think I get what you’re saying. You’re saying to the F355 specifically being hot running car, as you said temps creeping up and a stand still and cooling off when air is running through the car while being driven that on a cold day, the hot idle works to the F355’s advantage to get to good operating temputures more quickly.
Allow me to clarify (again): I don't recall stating that a car will warm up faster at idle than driving. If someone wants to search the thread, go for it If you are not an F1 owner, you won't get it. If you are an F1 owner, the idle warm up makes all the difference in the world on how the car drives. If banging gears doesn't bother you, start and drive. If you want your F1 to shift smoothly, idle for 5 minutes. My 10-15 minutes per the thread title is excessive, 5 does the trick
Image Unavailable, Please Login Whoaaaaaa how did I miss this! Great stuff guys. A little drama is the spice of life. It keeps life interesting. I have an F1. AT start up you have to to wait for the air pumpthingy to stop squealing. That takes about 2 to 3 minutes and allow at least another minutes for the engine to warm up. SO the total warm up time is a minimum three minutes or the e F1 will not engage smoothly. On this fact I agree with the mass. But I disagree with everyone, “Blondes have more fun” is a myth.
Popcorn came out on this thread 3 years ago In 2 weeks it will be 5 years old, so ...... did the chicken or the egg come first ? I warm mine up, not going to say how long, that might just drag this out another 5 years .......lol.
That explains it. I haven’t been here that long. Everyone thinks the talking point is warm up time. It’s just a mean to justify an end. If you read between the lines carefully, the hidden subject is completing something else. Of course if I say what that is there wouldn’t be drama thus life is boring. Beside, I don’t want be categorized as the blonde ***** who broke up Van Halen.
Well, I mentioned before... And let me make sure that everybody understands I'm a newbie and the Ferrari World, but not really two engines themselves. Anyway, maybe we should get someone to write to Ferrari and have them tell us which models are critical for warm-up times which ones are not. Then, armed with that information, we go on our own happy way and adjust it as we see fit. Or am I thinking a little too much again? I hate thinking outside the blender Sent from my VS995 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Okay let me translate what my voice to text just wanted to say... I'm a newbie in the Ferrari World but not really a newbie to engines themselves, I'm sure as we all are. Okay, I think the rest of it came out fine Sent from my VS995 using FerrariChat.com mobile app
