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BaT just listed a 575M 6-speed

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  1. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    It still wouldn’t pay $100k over for a 575.


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  2. G. Pepper

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    I screw them up too. The 360 Modena/F430 thing confused me at first. Ferrari nomenclature is typically Italian. It must drive the Germans mad. :)
     
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  3. Texas Forever

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    I dunno. BMW has made a mess of things with its odd and even system.


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  4. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Fair point! I haven't paid attention to Bimmers in years, though.
     
  5. dsd

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    I still drive my gated 575.

    I think the car in question has been flipped a few times. I believe it was at Competizione in MD for a spell (not 100% sure same car) but I know I have seen this one for sale at least once before.

    Hope everyone is happy with the end result.
     
  6. F355 Fan 82

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    wow sold for $215k + the $5000 BAT fee $220k, not bad.
     
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  7. G. Pepper

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    I wasn't expecting that solid of a sale, given the softness in the recent big auctions.
     
  8. F355 Fan 82

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    ya, its a decent car, i dunno $220k for a 31k mile car is meh to me. I get there were only a few of the 2060 575 maranellos made as a 6 speed but still you can get an AWESOME low mile 550 for much less if you had to have a stick, I posted a similar mile 550 in the another thread a few minutes ago asking $88k for 37k miles.
     
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  9. intrepidcva11

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    Alan, have you ever driven a paddle-shift performance car at speed on road or track? I strongly suggest you drive both, a 550 and a 575 F1. Nine years ago I decided to try to satisfy the itch to acquire a Maranello which to this day I regard as the most flawlessly beautiful Ferrari road car design ever, Understand that in the late 1950s I raced a little TR3 in the San Francisco Bay area and in the early 1960s a Porsche 356B Super 90 coupe at the Linas-Montlhery Autodrome (with an unlimited FIA license issued by the RAC!).

    An enthusiast, I wanted and looked initially for a 3-pedal and found a good one in grigio titanio/black. Was finalizing the purchase when I found my present car, in exactly the colors I wanted: blu Tdf/cuoio. But it was an F1. I bought it nevertheless. Turned out absolutely the right decision. For me. For I discovered that I am a better and faster and safer driver with the paddles.

    Why? When one is driving quickly what is most important? For me it is locating the apex and hitting it precisely. In a manual car coming down through the gears, at each shift a part of one's brain is focused on - press right pedal with left part of right foot, press left pedal with left foot, roll right foot onto accelerator, release left pedal, [then repeat down through the gears] , then reverse the entire process as you accelerate. Meaning that a significant part of your attention and your brain is focused on the fairly complicated process of braking, down-shifting through several gears and less than you full attention is on locating and hitting the apex of the turn.

    Whereas in an F1 car all of your attention can focus on the apex all the way through the turn whilst your fingers are flipping paddles, down, then up. It is as simple as that. Today I would not swap my 575 F1 for a same-color manual 575 even if the other party paid me a premium.

    just my 2c
     
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  10. G. Pepper

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    I'm way younger than you, and have virtually no experience compared to you - I'm only sixty - and I bought a 360 stick ten months ago, after selling an auto 456M. I've also never driven a paddle shift car, but my first three cars were all sticks: '69 Beetle, '74 X1/9, and I forget the year, Chevrolet Monza (All my guitars and amps could fit under that epic hatch, and it still looked kinda like a Daytona. :) ).

    I do not miss the 456M. Objectively a superior car, it just didn't do it for me. The 360 stick does it for me. It's an X1/9 by Ferrari for the twenty-first century. Perfect blend of old and new FOR ME.
     
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  11. intrepidcva11

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    Fan, your post brought to mind a friend who forty years ago had a non-franchise Ferrari business buying and selling cars, service and parts. He had a finance backer who banked the car purchases. Daytonas were then selling $75K-$90K. He pleaded with his partner to commit a million dollars to the acquisition and storage for a few years of quality condition Daytonas. Partner nixed the idea. Think of what it wold have been like to have an inventory of fifteen or so Daytonas when the market turned.

    Not predicting that Maranellos are going to become half-million dollar cars but hey, you never know!
     
  12. intrepidcva11

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    George, I would be the last person to deny the pleasure of using Ferrari's six-speed gated shifter. My first Ferrari was the 330/365GTC speciale w/ gated shifter and I adored it as I did my old 412 manual and F355 manual. That is exactly why I wanted a manual 575. All I meant to suggest is that there is a significant benefit to the F1 that is not recognized by many Ferrari tifosi.
     
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  13. G. Pepper

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    I'm currently shopping for FF's and/or 612's, so as to replace the previous 2+2, so we'll see, because it's either F1/a or the DCT. I'll probably end up loving it. :)
     
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  16. F355 Fan 82

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    no way man that car had 31k miles and no shields, a couple similar cars with way less miles have gone reserve not met mid 80s on BAT recently and the $84k one with 28k miles and no shields actually sold for that price

    $86,000 14k mile 575 F1- gray - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-ferrari-575m-maranello-4/

    $90,500 - 39k mile 575 F1 - red - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-ferrari-575m-maranello-2/

    $84,000 - 28k mile 575 F1 - silver - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-ferrari-575-maranello-4/

    I think color plays a big part in the final price, shields,etc. I was offered $95,000 last week for my 2002 red/tan 21,700 miles by a dealer, a different dealer offered me $70k in summer, and then ron tonkin ferrari in oregon offered me $75k too on a challenge stradale they had I wanted to trade it in for. I was told they're a hard sell which is just silly for a ferrari dealer to say.

    Anyways I've kept mine, life could be worse than having this v12 ferrari with an f1 box everyone apparently dislikes and nobody wants in trade haha.
     
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  17. ttforcefed

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    Yeh ur right - i was way off




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  18. F11

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    The car brought a stronger price than I expected. If I had lots of money I’d say it’s still a good value. If you view this as a collector piece it’s below MSRP from 13 years ago! In terms of collector cars from the mid 2000s priced at mid $200k would I rather have a stick 575, Ford GT, or SLR? All three please!

    Since I’m not made of money and I don’t care about rarity, a 550 in my mind is better value for someone who wants to drive as is the F1 575 which is faster and nearly 1/3 the price of stick cars.

    My other take away is that Bring A Trailer is a legitimate sales venue and can certainly bring sellers top dollar in a lot of cases.
     
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  19. Themaven

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    $220k for a gated 575 is not a surprise. It's not high given some of the prices for these cars of the past couple of years.
     
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  20. docapl

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    I bought the 575 stick this morning. I had spent a year looking for a 550 in this condition, with no stories and records from new, in the color I wanted, and all maintenance done. Such a 550 did not exist. I was not planning to spend this much or get a 575. However, this car came to my attention and I went to look at it. I paid a premium and got a 575M that met my criteria. YOLO.


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  21. ttforcefed

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    Makes total sense. When you like what you do it isnt work. When you pay more for exactly what you want it isnt a premium. Well done.


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    Is that a droopy visor I see? :eek:
     
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  23. Texas Forever

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    Cool, enjoy the car. Have fun. That's what it is all about. They are just cars, not investments.
     
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