Cripes, nationalism, there's a minefield. I'm proud of the UK's F1 industry. If the Brit car's were still painted BRG maybe i would support the English teams. We have lost that, but I admire and support the car painted in Red partly because it retains that national character and pride. As for the Silver car, since when is Brackley in Germany ? Massive opportunity for a nationalist joke right there. But we'll swerve it, out of respect for our EU partner. Oh, hold on...
This post, coming from you, is one of the funniest things I've ever read. You need to open your eyes then. Nice cop out.
It's almost embarrassing for Brit F1 fans. They have zero loyalty. They're dropped their legendary teams McLaren and Williams now that they are both a joke and have hopped on the Mercedes bandwagon quicker than quick. They switch allegiances like a fart in the wind. Don't see that with Ferrari fans. Forza. Excellent point. Let's take a trip down memory lane and look at reaction from Austria 02. You'd think MSC and Ferrari just mowed over some puppies: Very dramatic by the Brit media. Compare with Mercedes and Golden Boy LH doing the exact same thing and it's now "well it is the smart move in terms of strategy you guys!" Lol, gotta love it.
Yep, welcome to the world of formula one, where if the double standard suits Elton, the Brit press and fia will agree to absolutely anything, and promote even the PR disasters as a triumph
Aside from Facebook and the British-biased SkySports commentary, what is your experience of the UK? Regards, Andrew.
been there many times. very nationalistic people. and yes ran into many Michael/Ferrari haters. they arent hard to find if F1 comes up or youre watching it at the pub on TV
...riiiiight. So your "been there many times" makes you a greater expert on the English national psyche than my British heritage, English family, English wife, wife's English family, and my living, educating, and working in the UK for over half my life? Yes, Brits like a British driver, but there are plenty of Tifosi in the UK (I used to meet them at my local pub) and, in my experience, the overall national sentiment is not one of hatred towards Schumacher. All the best, Andrew.
I think this participant - TifosiUSA - has a problem with British people. I have noticed that he keeps mentioning location and makes disparaging comment to people from the UK.
Well, I’m not offended, and I actually agree with his comments on the whole. You are not the role model for the entire country buddy
There are British tifosi, and there is everyone else. I can’t count the number of times I’ve had conversations with people that claim to support Elton because he is English, not because he is good, or the champion, but simply because he is the British guy, and before him, they supposedly supported button, or coulthard, or whoever. It’s a very nationalistic thing (and thats why brexit got voted for, an uneducated opinion of keeping ‘the foreigners’ out and sending them home, nothing to do with economics or anything else, hence it’s such a disaster to organise) and my own father is the obvious example, flies a st George flag on his garages and ignores the council repeatedly trying to get him to take it down. I myself have a ferrari flag on mine, and numerous Italian tricolore around
That's your opinion. I understand that you're getting mad because of your Brit ties but I clearly know better than you on this. You see what you what to see, I see it like it is. All the best.
No I have a problem with people like you who are hypocrites of the highest degree and harbor so much hatred towards a sporting icon that you can be happy that he is incapacitated. I hope you seek help.
So how about Seb getting a three place grid penalty in a free practice? Every time I think this season couldn't possibly get worse... folded like a house of cards.
I have no idea, but 27+ seconds under a red flag is ridiculous. There is literally no excuse for it. It's as if there is a voodoo curse on him, forcing him to do stupid things. lol
"Lining out 27.7 seconds precisely as not complying with the rules I think is wrong. "I think I slowed down, I had a good look around at what was going on. The rules are clear so we know. "It is the first time we had this in the wet, where the target is a lot slower, so literally you have to stop to 40-50km/h to bring down the delta, which probably I should do next time. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/139504/f1-red-flag-rules-are-wrong--vettel -- Next time lol - Ok Seb lol
Difficult? Impossible. He's no Michael. And I once thought he could be a sort of lesser second coming.....
I've been a Vettel fan since 2008 and continue to be...but 2018 gets him the well deserved "sucks" thread that many others have. I mean...comon man! At least talk to Max and learn how to take out the other driver (not yourself!!) when making contact lol
I've been a Vettel fan even when he was at Red Bull... I do find that he's shown more desperation these past couple of years. I think its a combo of the car changes, - wider bigger cars - less diffuser aero, and turbo engines. as well as a completely different atmosphere at Ferrari.. at RB he had a German behind him - Austrian... so there was some common language... and the team were England based vs. Italy. I think the pressure was less & different. In Italy you become a national saint or deamon depending on performance. This weekend was plain mistakes by Vettel... he's still in it but has to believe that its over. the car clearly has recovered from what ever was the problem in the past... but has the entire team & Vettel? this could have been a win for Vettel had he not spun... or sped through the red flag and started 3rd. His face is showing age and stress... I think he's in un common territory and having a difficult time figuring it out.
I never understood why people thought vettel was so great? I think it was the RB chassis that no one could touch. RB had secret sauce that was not obvious and out there like the brawnGP double difusser that gave button a commanding lead in that championship. Button nearly lost it as the others caught up.
I have been a strong supporter of Vettel since his early days, but this season has exposed his mental weaknesses like never before. I thought he would learn to try and get his head straight after the previous season's embarrassment at Baku, but no. He has just got worse. Germany - brain fade. Monza - brain fade. Japan - brain fade. Austin - brain fade. Every driver is allowed a bye for the odd mishap, we are all human after all, but 4 is completely unacceptable. Even Stroll is mentally stronger. Sadly, I have to suspend my belief that Vettel deserves his place as Ferrari's number one. LeClerc is going to give him a proper wake up call next season...
For all his faults this year Vettel is not "slow" and speed is what is needed first and foremost. As he is still "quick", its worth him dedicating his whole winter to getting his head in the right place. Use a "sports psychologist" by all means. If he can get his head sorted and he gets another good car I think he can win next years WDC. If he can't find that mental clarity he, should retire. Its pretty black and white.
