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I wish Elton was there instead of Vettel.

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  1. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    Sounds like you are trolling for reactions to me, you wanna be careful
     
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  2. Blackmamba

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    Ummm, not quite. Believe me Vettel has garnered reactions all by himself through his ineptitude and me pointing out Ferrari fans are not happy about his miserable campaign is not trolling.
     
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  3. ATBNM3

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    Hamilton is an amazing driver, if Ferrari want a chance at winning the WDC they will buy out his contract at Mercedes and pay him triple...
     
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  4. P.Singhof

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    You mean like this? :rolleyes:
    And still saying someone being in a paralyzed state is not a great shame but most likely "karma" is even beyond hate....
     
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  5. ATBNM3

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    True.. that is what Hamilton has done this year. He won races that he was not supposed to win and hasn't made a mistake all season long. He was incredible this season!
     
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  6. tifoso2728

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    Sheesh . . . Any thread with a title like this quickly turns to childish blather. I'm outta here . . .
     
  7. Need4Spd

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    Before this season, you could argue that Mercedes could put any of the top drivers into their cars and they’d win the WDC. Lewis, Nico, most any at the top. But like him or not, this season proved Lewis worthy, as he won with the second best car, or one at parity with the Ferraris.


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  8. johnireland

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    I can imagine both Hamilton and Ferrari deciding to try each other out. Hamilton might feel that winning WDC 6 and 7 in a Ferrari would be a perfect high note to end his career. And if Mercedes drops out of F1 at the end of 2019, then that would be a perfect way for Ferrari to win two championships in a row as a way for its own bowing out of F1. What would be left of F1 would become a privateers spec racing series much like Indy cars.
     
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  9. Sempre_gilles

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    He also won because of
    1. stupid mistakes of other drivers and teams
    2. blatant team orders
    3. issues about the legality of the car
    4, perhaps some favouritism of the FIA as well?

    The real test for Hamilton to prove himself as a great driver, is the moment when he has an inferior car and still is able to win races or battle at the sharp end of the grid. That is what Senna did in 1993 and Schumacher in 1996 (regardless what people might think of their personalities). They did not start whining and blaming others, they carried on with determination to get the best out of the car.
     
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  10. daytona355

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    Yeah yeah, just as well no one takes it seriously then
     
  11. daytona355

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    The Mercedes has the assistance of the FIA at every turn who joined them in protesting and complaining any time ferrari were on a par, eventually they found their cheats , strat 2 and of course their illegal wheels, so they won because they played politics. Any half decent driver would win in the Mercedes if they were designated at number one and having the number two completely subservient to them, as was Bottas. Do you actually look past the results to see the reasons why?
     
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  12. subirg

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    Hamilton’s marketing image isn’t compatible with Ferrari so it isn’t going to happen. What’s so hard to understand about that?
     
  13. daytona355

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    I think we all know that you didn’t need to ask that question..... hehehehe....... some of these Elton fans wish so badly ferrari would be daft enough to sign the fool.... yet both ferrari and Elton have said many times they have never ever considered him.. it must hurt them really badly that in f1, people KNOW Elton only won due to the car.... heck, they could hire nico Rosberg and get the same thing, a driver that managed to win in the car that is class of the field, let’s face it, didn’t work with bringing in Vettel did it!. In Mexico, with the car brought back down to the level of the rest, he became the driver he always was at McLaren and year one at Mercedes - a whiny, dopey also- ran that spent the race finding excuses for his inability to have any positive effect on the car.... schumy would have been concentrating on trying to win the race and finished either first or on the tail of Maxine. Then again, schumy was the ACTUAL greatest ever, earns by winning on second rate cars as well as dominant ones, and against REAL competition that were encouraged to develop their cars and try to win races and championships
     
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  15. P.Singhof

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    1) what makes you think Lewis would do better at Ferrari than Seb watching the incapabilities of the strategy department and Lewis' tendency to overact on those mistakes?
    2) what makes you think Lewis wants to leave his comfort zone at Mercedes to try the uncertain at Ferrari
    3) what makes you believe Lewis thinks winning in a Ferrari would be more special...he never made any comments that he has interest in driving in red
    4) what makes you think that Ferrari wants him?
    5) and even more what makes you think Ferrari will leave F1 anytime soon?

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  16. kraftwerk

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    And still the excuses pile in ....even with the stupid rule of creating degrading tyres for better racing :confused: leading to Merc and no doubt other teams spending vast amounts of cash trying to solve, like Ferrari with the twin batteries after the extra senor was fitted, however when all's said and done it didn't stop Hamilton winning.....All the teams try to circumvent grey area rules, you don't need to be a rocket science to work it out.. yawn...as if the grapes aren't sour.enough.

    And he could wear a bin bag for all I care, it's his driving that matters, it's laughable how some folk are obsessed about his dress sense, very bizarre indeed, like he would care what an armchair expert thinks of his attire anyway.
     
  17. BartonWorkman

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    For anyone (left) doubting Hamilton's talent, race craft and poise just re-watch this year's
    German Grand Prix.

    The entire 2018 Formula One season in a nutshell and master craft racing from Hamilton.
    Respect.



    BHW
     
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  18. ktu

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    Ok, its internet warriors vs REAL F1 drivers time again.

    Fernando on Hamilton in a inferior car:
    "For example in 2009 that car wasn't very good and he was still winning races. Those kind of performances put him at a very high level"

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11119749/fernando-alonso-lewis-hamilton-is-one-of-formula-1s-greatest-drivers
     
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    Well, he basically run out of arguments. A while ago...
     
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  20. ktu

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    I was hoping for more creative/original excuses from Ham haters this championship. So far reading through this thread they're lackluster at best
     
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  21. dm_n_stuff

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    Nope.

    None of that.

    2 day ban, both parties.

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  22. P.Singhof

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    Ok...first of all I do not know who you guys think is saying Lewis has no talent...
    But may I honestly ask why people think this race is the proof for Lewis being the goat? Don´t get me wrong, the result is the best one he could get nut please rewatch the race:
    Lewis dit NOT overtake any Ferrari or Red Bull on track, he only overtook backmarkers so this alone is nothing more special than Max driving from 18th to second (although one is presented as the best drive in years and the others as "ok" or "solid").
    Ricci was out...
    Seb crashed...
    Max fell behind with another pit stop
    Bottas and Kimi fell back behind him because they did pit during the safety car...
    Lewis was not in the pits although it is still unclear whether this driving over the gras at pit entrance was against the rules or not...
    After the restart Bottas was all over Lewis with fresher tires and normally would have won the race until he was told to hold position and make clear that Kimi did not get near Lewis and that Lewis will win with at least 5 seconds clear in case they get a penalty for the pit entry story...

    So under normal circumstancces (without wingman Bottas) Lewis would have ended second or third so why is this considered such a remarkable race just because everything playrd into his hands???
     
  23. P.Singhof

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    Who was talking about his dress sense????
     
  24. Sempre_gilles

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    In 2009 Hamilton won two races, in Hungary and Singapore, at a point in the season where it was all to clear what the initial advantage of the Brawn-Mercedes was and all teams had copied it. At the beginning of the season, when McLaren did not have the double diffusor, Hamilton won zero.
     
  25. BartonWorkman

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    The point being, Hamilton started 14th which our intrepid commentators tell us makes it
    virtually impossible to get a podium, much less a victory. Usually the line is that all anyone
    starting from 14th can possibly hope for is a points finish (top 10).

    Hamilton literally rung the German Grand Prix by the neck. It was the Lewis Hamilton show
    from the moment the lights went out. That Ferrari (once again) got wrong footed by the rain
    as they seemingly always do, doesn't matter. That was by no means a win that Hamilton
    lucked into as there is no doubt he would have gotten around Vettel in the end.

    Drivers are not given wins with asterisks ("So and so fell out because he panicked in the rain",
    etc.), the win goes in the record book just like any other. Other than the mis-communication
    when Hamilton ran across the grass at pit entry, he ran a flawless race.

    We've seen him dominate in heavy rain time and time again, conditions don't matter. What we
    are witnessing with Hamilton is utter domination of F1 currently. A driver and team in total synch
    and when Schumacher's few remaining records are broken, the record books won't be noting the
    failures of other drivers and teams.

    BHW
     
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