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Cheap DIY Cab B-Pillar fix

Discussion in 'Mondial' started by AndruL, Nov 17, 2018.

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  1. AndruL

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  2. ddiggler

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    How did you repair it? Thanks. Doug.
     
  3. Cadillacbart

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    Yes! Do tell please.
     
  4. stekkefun4

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    yes, I saw it on facebook too. Looks like a plastic strip that you glued over the original at first sight.
     
  5. syata

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    I will monitor this thread since I have this tear as well... please tell us...


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  6. Cadillacbart

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    Guess he’s not willing to share the secret :)
     
  7. ronfrohock

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  8. AndruL

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    I have enough materials left to make another pair. PM me if interested.
     
  9. ddiggler

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    Whats the secret and what material did you use?
     
  10. Cadillacbart

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    AndruL,

    Is this fix something you are trying to monitize (which I understand)?
    Please let us know if that’s the case and what you are charging for the fix.
    If not, why not share how you did this? This community, particularly us Mondial folks, thrives on helping each other out.

    Much appreciated!

    John
     
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  11. srephwed

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    Count me in also
     
  12. AndruL

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    Yes, wanted to see if there are enough interests for me to make them for order and what's a fair price to charge.
     
  13. Cadillacbart

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    More pics of the final product?
     
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  14. AndruL

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    Trying to gauge interest so PM me if interested.
     
  15. ddiggler

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    It appears that there is plenty of interest. Myself personally, if it is a simple fix with some unforeseen material that works without special tooling I am going to share it with everyone.
     
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  16. stekkefun4

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    In fact, I have the same issue too with a cabrio that I restored, but I am lucky that I do have a spare authentic unit that I can replace it with.

    On the other hand, I encourage AndruL to come up with a price quote because this is a very nice alternative.

    That makes me remind of a site like http://www.comptoir-carrosserie.fr/ that sells all kinds of rubber seals, which the B-pillar in fact is.

    It's not too much work to repair the structure and glue a cover on top of it, AndruL's method would be great for people not wanting to invest too much time in it, as long as it's not too complicated of course.
     
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  17. ronfrohock

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  18. MvT

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    Can you perhaps give more transparency in how it looks like and your process? This is all what this platform is about. Btw there is already a great quality replacement instead of the OEM one.
     
  19. ronfrohock

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    Thanks for the reference to the great quality replacement.
    Appreciated.

    What this poster is mentioning is the possibility of fixing your existing B Pillars without the need for tooling using a material that may be new to us.

    I have been in product design and prototyping for most of my adult life and I can’t imagine getting the detail needed without the need for tooling in this case.

    This is a complex part. The original material is old and dry which is causing it to crumble. Adding material - tooling or not- will be a temporary band aid.

    I agree my parts were expensive and I wish I could have made them for a lower cost.

    I put a great deal of thought and experiance into choosing the materials and adjusting the design in a way that would offer an improved part that looked original.

    If there is a better way, I’m all ears.




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  20. jkstevens2

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    My B Pillar is broken as well. When I closely watch the convertible top recline, the metal frame members including the B Pillar are slightly out of alignment and the B Pillar rubs against the side of the slot that the entire frame rest within. This is the real reason for the break or tearing of the material.

    I am in no way criticizing the fix but if you are adding material to the exterior of the existing B Pillar, the entire strip will peel back when the top is lowered. At least, thats the case in my Mondial 3.2

    It looks very pleasing but the functionality is my concern.

    As for monetizing the fix, I am not a fan. Everyone in this Mondial forum (for the most part) is a DIY owner. We are all in the same boat, trying to maintain/restore a 30 plus year Ferrari that has a limited parts lists at best.
     
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    Agreed on the interference geometry.
    My B Pillars had an internal metal spline that was capture molded. The spline had slight geometry changes that helped to reduce the interference between the pillar and the body panel.
    And, my parts were molded from a material that is up stable and should stay pliable for many years.

    It’s always best to have a friend help raise and lower the roof, gently guiding the pillars past the body panels.


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  22. srephwed

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    Or just put the top down
     
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  23. 4re308

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    We have several Mondials that need this B pillar seal set. We got a few sets from Mr. Frohock that are EXCELLENT. Ron if you make more please let me know!!
     
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  24. paulchua

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    I can personally attest to Ron's products (all of them actually) very good quality.

    That's said, if there is a new and cheaper way, that's good too!

    Let us know of the fix is beyond cosmetic, as Ron's is quite robust.

    Nothing wrong with cosmetic either, I think you have different degrees of wants.

    Thanks everyone!!!
     
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