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  1. dinonz308

    dinonz308 Formula Junior
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    Patience is a virtue - I plan to get one next month. Just have to find the right one. Then I'll find something to complain about.
     
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  2. johnk...

    johnk... F1 World Champ
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  3. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    Where are you located, I may know a couple for sale, any particular year you’re looking for?
     
  4. Hannibal308

    Hannibal308 F1 Veteran
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    I’m sometimes taken aback by the HP complaints. For a while I had a Cayman S with 285 HP pushing around just over 2900 pounds. I never wanted more power and the car was a blast in our AZ mountains. My 308 purportedly has 255 HP pushing around just over 2300 (VR) pounds. So my 308 has between 10-15% more HP/pound than my Porsche Cayman S had. And...guess what...the 308 feels a bit quicker actually. The Porsche will crush it in terms of comfort and road holding. But as to the 308 being under powered, mini van food, etc...maybe I’m just too easy to please.
     
  5. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

    Jan 22, 2003
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    The position and ergonomics of the gas pedal seems to be optimized for full throttle. So I got aching problems in my right leg on longer distances with half or less throttle.
    I showed the problem to my physiotherapist who showed me some training excercises. Problem disappeared.
    It seems WE have to to adapt ourselves to the little discomforts and not the other way round (modifications on the car).

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     
  6. dinonz308

    dinonz308 Formula Junior
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    I'm in Austin Texas. I'm really looking for a Euro QV - ideally 84 or 85, but would be happy with an 83. Prefer red over tan, ideally with black carpets though.
     
  7. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

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    I often wonder, who these folks are, who complain about horsepower. Our cars are up to 40 years old and considered as classic cars.
    They are a lot more, than just fast cars from forgotten times. I love the raw feeling of my carb beast. Noises, handling and such things.
    Talking about horsepower versus fun: My wife owns a 100hp Fiat 500 16V with sports suspension. Our quattrovalvole family go-kart :) A serious challenge on twisty roads for heavy sedans up to 300 or even more hp.

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     
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  8. thorn

    thorn F1 Rookie
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    The QV was my dream car since around 1979, but a few months before I bought one I was cross-shopping a new bespoke Cayman S Turbo. The Porsche was a bit more money, but superior in every technical way... certainly so much faster. I also love the styling tweaks of the latest models. It was my son who said late one night, "Dad, the Porsche will be awesome. But in 2-3 years, it will be just a car to you. And you'll be wishing you had bought the Ferrari."

    He was right, of course. There are certainly days I wish I had the Cayman, but I never wish I'd bought it instead of the Ferrari. And it's fast enough to make me smile.
     
  9. Hannibal308

    Hannibal308 F1 Veteran
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    We need a REALLY LIKE button...
     
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  10. Brian A

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    Interesting. I find the 308 seat to be one of the better ones around. I guess it relates to body shape or something.
     
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  11. thorn

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    Mine has this complete concave shape, as it I'm forced to almost slump in it.
     
  12. kcabpilot

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    As to horsepower, I had always wanted a 246 Dino and the 308 was my second choice so I ended up with more horsepower than I originally planned. I think it gets brought up disproportionally in 308 discussions because it looks so similar to the Boxer and people who don't really know Ferrari's don't know that it was the Dino's replacement and not supposed to compete with the supercars of the era such as the Countach. It was however perfectly competitive with its peers such as the 911 and Corvette.

    Complaints? Nah, I knew what I was getting into when I bought my 308. Its exactly what I expected it to be.
     
  13. Brian A

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    And the trunk is too small to carry home a big galvanized steel oil drip pan for the garage floor.
     
  14. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
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    only time I don't enjoy my car is the few occassions I've ended up driving on a rainy night.
     
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  15. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    Oh and my third complain is, they are under priced.
     
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  16. Dorsetgem

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    Being a short arse I would say the seating position, and pedal location on my RHD.
     
  17. Albert-LP

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    The only complaint I have about this design masterpiece and Ferrari history milestone is the price: too low. That's one of the best looking and best cars Ferrari ever did.

    ciao
     
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  18. Patrick Dixon

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    I'm a short arse too and my gt4 fits me perfectly ... except that the sun visor is completely useless of course.
     
  19. johnk...

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    And that's perfect for me.
     
  20. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

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    What's wrong, if good things are inexpensive? I like the fact, that the cars are still reasonably priced, since insurance rates are value dependent and crazy values attract 'false friends'. See the increased thefts of 308s over here in 2015, when there was 'that bubble'.
    It's still just a car for me and should deliver fun and not sleepless nights in hotels, where there's only outside parking.

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     
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  21. Brian A

    Brian A F1 Rookie

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    I dislike how many misconceptions people have about the car; overestimating complexity and cost of maintenance, inaccurate performance and weight statistics, overstated fragility and special treatment required, exaggerated lack of availability of parts, etc. All are not true.
     
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  22. Lawrence Coppari

    Lawrence Coppari Formula 3

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    I have owned my black '87 GTS for 31 years. Things I don't like about it are:

    1. Under certain sunny conditions seeing the instrument cluster hood in the windshield.
    2. Insufficient AC even though mine works as best it can.
    3. Large turning radius.
     
  23. Fiat2Ferrari

    Fiat2Ferrari Karting

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    A few observations from a non-owner (currently at least; I plan to own a 308 at some point.)

    The arguments I am reading could be made about most sports cars. On NSXPrime, just swap out Ferrari for NSX and you will read similar threads. Horespower? Fragile parts? AC? Hardtop versus coupe? Sight lines with sun in your windshield? Hell, even my right IT band hurts when I do long drives if I don't use cruise control. You get the idea.

    Here is why I stalk this site; the car is drop-dead gorgeous. It is a moving piece of art. Were I able to find a rolling chassis (i.e. justify some expense), that car would be in my lobby as a piece of art. When I think of what Pininfarina did with these cars...pure love. Can you imagine that final design meeting? Sitting back and smiling, knowing you nailed it. You could just walk away from your career at that point knowing you hit the pinnacle.

    As it stands today, I have the Japanese version of art (which I will never sell). I do make concessions to my Italian friends and have added Tubi exhaust (all my NSXs have had Tubi on them - though I haven't gone so far as to put ITBs on yet!)

    Give me a few more years to address some financial responsibilities...and god-willing, I will own a 308. I may just buy some white coveralls and treat the car like it is in surgery when I work on it (read: slow, methodical, precise, intentional.) And, I will post my photos of the car.

    You are all super lucky to own these cars. Keep them in good shape for the next generation of enthusiasts! I will be knocking soon.
     
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  24. Martin308GTB

    Martin308GTB F1 Rookie

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    Wow! Thanks for this. I will print and frame it and hang it onto my garage wall. For the rare occasions, when I sometimes wish to light up my car :)

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     
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  25. Crowndog

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    All that’s been covered plus the S-L-O-W
    windows.
     

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