599 F1 Shift Problem

Well, I'm no expert but it certainly sounds like a clutch problem. Do have someone reputable you can take it to? I would think that would be your first step.

 

Go to a good Ferrari technician and have him check out the F1 system and clutch with an SD3. Also, if the F1 system has not been serviced (new fluid, bleed, self test, leak check) in the last 3 years, that needs to be done, too.


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Having driven a large number of F1 Ferrari's (starting them up and moving them in and out the shop cold), I have noticed that the clutch engagement on the 599 is much more abrupt than other Ferrari's. Not to say that there isn't a problem with your car, but it just may be the nature of the beast.

 

I have to agree with Motob, having moved hundreds of cars in and out, 599s are the worst for cold clutch engagement. Very snappy and abrupt. Not saying your car does not have an issue, but they are the worst.

 

Sounds like Ferrari must have borrowed Aston Martin software..........!

 

Stop increasing throttle until the clutch grabs. Depress the gas a little bit and wait for it to engage - almost as if the clutch engagement is coming to you. I find this to work for initial feathering out of the garage and driveway maneuvering. On the road it's not an issue, as you said.

 

The 599 is a very harsh engagement when cold..really bad when the temps are approaching zero degrees celcius. Warm..they are not bad. Why this is, I have no idea, but it could be the friction material of the clutch disc. It's just a very grabby material, and it freaks out the f1 TCU so it pulls back the release bearing way to early making the car jerk.

Nature of the beast I suppose..

 

Thais a common concern and easily rectified by a proper clutch set up. The V12 cars and particularly the 599 F1 has a rather abrupt clutch engagement cold. When the factory does the initial clutch calibration it is with all new components that are not bedded in properly. Once the car has been driven the clutch components bed in and bite better. Now the cold and parking lot maneuvers it bites to hard. A good Ferrari tech with the proper tooling can do a manual clutch set up on the point of initial slip. Do not do the auto set or you will end up with the same problem or if the auto set fails the belville curve portion you have a real problem.

 

I have tried to get rid of that jump many times. I have made it better, but never have I been able to completely eliminate it. If you play with it too much, you start sacrificing warm performance. With the 599 you have settle on a happy medium. They are a bit of a tricky car to service, and you have to be careful when you start moving numbers around.

 

Owner is stating it is bad enough to stall the car. Fixed plenty of these. Not many know how to properly adjust clutches.

 

I'm not sure if this will help your situation, but worth a try.

Turn the key to the first stage, then pump the throttle 3 times and then start the car. IIRC it helps the throttle position sensor learn and reduces the initial sensitivity of the throttle.

 

Drove another one yesterday, it was warm and very touchy throttle.
Car was here for another issue and the owner has no complaint. Just an FYI on what I see.

 

One should allow a bit of warming for this issue as well as the rear traction unit. Both need a little warming. 5 minutes or so and you're off.

 

Definitely try my tip above. I think you'll find it helps


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Good to know as I am a new 599 owner as well. I haven't had any of the OP's experiences but it doesn't get too cold around my neck of the woods, maybe 30 degrees F or so.

Of note, both my Maseratis with Cambiocorsa's (Quattroporte and Gransport) are much more grabby than the 599 when cold and when backing out of the garage...

 

I think this is exactly right. Approach it, from a cold start, like a peddle clutch. When you feel it grab increase throttle.