I had the trumpet exhausts in one of my GTOs and they sounded great from both inside and outside of the car.
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No doubt about the sound level of the automobile, however the esthetic side remains important, in my opinion. On the F40, I have the same worries.
SN 55555 for sale https://www.gipimotor.com/en/classic/sale/ferrari-288-gto-1985.html Are any more coming up for auction in spring 2019 ? F
Cool chassis number! I think those are the ones that tend to come up for auction or sale so we notice them. I’m aware of many 288 GTOs that have 20,000 to 30,000kms, even some with in excess of 60,000 to 100,000 kms as posted in this thread. As I always say, the cars have different lives, and when you see low mileage cars 30yrs later, it could be that they have been placed on a pedestal and just preserved or part of a bigger collection. Of course it’s possible the cable could be unplugged which some suggest happens frequently, but in all my not inconsiderable amount of GTO wheeling & dealing, not once have I been unable to corroborate the mileage by means of maintenance documentation that shows progressive increments over time that matches the current status. I’m sure some cars have mileage that is not genuine, but it’s not as rampant as some suggest.
I am aware of one in Norcal that has been owned by current owner for years. He used to commute in it. Has quite a few miles at this point. At the other end I recommissioned an F40 that spent its life built into a living room and am aware of a couple of GTO's in similar situations.
You may be right Joe; many of the cars I’ve seen are auction cars and they may have come up multiple times. It would be interesting to know how many are really out there at sub 3k KM. I do understand the point of the larger collection and only so many miles you can add to any one car.
@ joe Sackey - nice example for sale in west coast USA....belongs to a dear friend asking $3.15m...think you might know the car....
Same with many F40, and of course a huge quantity of vintage Ferrari's that ''benefited" from an odometer rollback. I wonder what percentage of all classic Ferrari's would have an honest record of their mileage. Probably not a big number.
As I suggested above regarding GTOs (let’s try and keep the thread on-topic), even though there are obviously some cars whose mileage is not genuine, they are in the minority and not the majority by any means, and this applies to F40s as well.
That's what we all would hope.... But, with all my respect, I know you are an authority in the field of the 288 GTO, I doubt about the 'minority'..... 1. Too much money involved. 2. Too easy to do an odometer rollback before the digital era. 3. Ferrari spa doesn't have the reputation to have had much control or make records about correct km/ml settings on maintenance invoice in the 80's. Many dealerships of that era even don't exist anymore. Easy to falsify any record. I am just a little sceptical.
I am 100% with Joe. We see the cars and owners on a regular basis. Working on them it is quite easy to have a good ballpark idea how much use a car has seen. The skepticism comes from a lack of understanding the owner demographic.
For what it is worth I see cars with obvious discrepancies between indicated mileage and obvious use at a far greater number out of other countries than I do from cars that spent their lives in the USA. I have an F40 here now that spent its life in Europe and Japan that is used up and has and indicated 11,000 km and was sold saying that was a real number. What a pitiful lie.
Yes. Niki's (not Nikki's) 58329 was the 266th built. Completed 16 July 1985. Nine days before the last one was completed (58345 on 25 July 1985). Marcel Massini
Nothing wrong with a healthy dose is skepticism, however doubts are not facts, so if you have actual data that supports your concerns, please share. In my day-to-day trading as a specialist dealing with these cars on a professional basis, I am not seeing the majority of cars with tampered mileage, so I can conclude it’s a small minority. Exactly.
