Hello to all! New to the forum, and I'm looking at a the above car. 1 owner, 23.5k miles, services done, driven, but not a ton. Looks to be in good shape. The color is interesting. It's silver on top, over a black bottom half. I only have one pic, and it appears that the interior is a dark burgundy or tobacco. Any idea on what this color combo (especially exterior) is called?? Is it rare? What's with the black below the mid-line?? I actually kind of like that is isn't red, and it fairly unique. Thoughts? Thanks, E Image Unavailable, Please Login
If it’s a 1980 car , it’s not the correct bonnet for the car, shouldn’t have vents. Black below the waist line is known as a boxer paint scheme Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
...known as the "Boxer paint scheme" because the big sister of the 308, the 12 cylinder 365/512 "BB" was called the "Berlinetta Boxer" (= "BB") even if the engine is not technically a "Boxer", but a 180° V-12. All the "BB" were initially delivered with the lower part of the body painted in black, hence the nickname "Boxer Paint Scheme" for this scheme which was available on request for the 308. Agree that the car shouldn't have a vented front hood if it is a '80. If it is a carbed car, the seats are of the wrong design; if it is an injected two-valve, the seats are right but the car could not be a '80. Rgds
I thought the 2V-i-cars production started after the summer holidays in 1980? Vented hood would be still not right. Why should one install a QV-hood on an earlier car? Two things come to my mind. Accident repair or some dumbass kinked the hood while closing without releasing that dreaded knob. Best from Germany Martin
Indeed Martin, but I guess that a car built in the summer of 1980 would qualify as "Model year 1981" so considered as a '81 by our American friends (they usually use the MY, not the calendar year). Rgds
Hmm. Well, so far this is what I know. The information is being passed through a friend. The gent that owns this one is older, and hes heavy into the Buick scene and has done a ton of restoration work on older vehicles. He bought the car new and enjoys driving it occasionally, it's always been garaged, and as far as I know, it's never been wrecked. It wouldn't surprise me if the information passed to me is only partially correct. I spent a lot of time searching on the site last night, and it appears the vented hood would have started around 1983MY with the QV?? Pardon my lack of knowledge. I was looking for a fun toy to buy (and actually was looking at the Porsche 997.1 Turbos), when my friend mentioned that he was thinking about getting rid of this car; and honestly it piqued my interest. I've been diving into the Ferrari world; and I'll be going to check this one out in person later this week. Pretty excited about it all, honestly. I've never driven a Ferrari, but I'm not new to the process of acquiring unique automobiles. How common was the Boxer paint scheme?
Yes indeed: vented hoods started with the "Quattrovalvole", the first ones being built in september 1982, so MY year 1983 for the American readers. There is unfortunately no records available for the numbers of cars in a specific paint schemes, nor for the distribution of the different colors, etc...let's say that the "Boxer paint scheme" was "not uncommon" for the carbed GTBs (and some GTSs) but started to become fairly rare during the 1980's. (Even the last BBs themselves were not delivered into that scheme anymore, unless you requested it). Should it be a "Quattrovalvole" indeed, being a GTB the car itself is fairly rare, there were only 748 GTBs QV built for the whole world. Rgds
Interesting. I'm surprised that Ferrari didn't keep numbers on the paint colors; I just figured that was something they would have tracked. I'll know more later this week and post back. Thanks guys!!
It is not necessarly that the factory doesn't have the numbers; they might have them; in fact, I strongly suspect they have them indeed. Only that these are not accessible to us mere mortals... As for access to information and statistics, Ferrari is still a mysterious world; not that far from the Vatican...and their archives are as secret as are those of the Vatican. Rgds
Hood is wrong, rear spoiler is wrong, seats are right. Boxer paint style was "available" in 80 so that isn't right or wrong But who cares? I looks great like that
Ok, so I talked with the seller today, a bit of an eccentric. But the stories are great...he's a talker. Purchased in 1981, as a 1980 model. In 1983 he bought a second one, and then followed the way they changed some things and decided to modify his to the newer spec; this includes the euro bumper, the spoiler on the rear, and a euro belly pan. The car was originally all silver; he loved the way the newer cars looked, and had the black sprayed on the lower body. He used the car mainly for trips to and from Maryland, and found there was very little luggage space - so he would remove the spare tire to put his suitcase there to travel home. The suitcase got hot...so he installed the louvered hood to help ventilate the radiator. Everything was done by the Ferrari dealer. Up until around 10 years ago it was driven regularly. He's going to look for the spare tire - he's not sure it's in the car. He's taking it to a local Ferrari specialist to have the car checked over. It has not been driven in 10 years, that's the bad news. It did have it's full service done and belts completed prior to it being parked. At some point in the 90's I suspect he was having braking issues; specifically with them seizing due to infrequent driving. He had all of the calipers bored and all pistons are now stainless steel, which has solved his braking issues. This fellow restores older hot rods now for a living; and this car sits amongst a full machine shop and a dyno. He's a fanatic (though no longer about Ferrari's), and his attention to detail is impressive. I do think the car looks good. I want to see it in person, and hopefully sometime in February I'll get to drive it. Currently the FI system has an issue with the MAF meter. He's going to take it over to the local specialist to have it looked at and fixed. It will be interesting to go and talk with the specialist, and see what he sees. All in all, I think it's a solid car with a pretty interesting history.
What's a 'Euro belly pan'? And the bumper is not Euro, but US. Or do you mean the deep front spoiler? Love the vented hood/front luggage compartmenf story ;-) Best from Germany Martin
It’s a great car with a good story, if you want to go back to original (as you should I believe) then just paint the whole thing silver and change that bonnet Good luck Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Why? None of the mods are going to cause any problems for the car. Ferrari even agreed and 3 years later started doing them all.
Any comments on the pin stripe? I have never seen that before. Regardless of what the owner says. A new hood and respray below the beltline would cause me to check very closely for damage. Nice looking car.
That was actually the first thing that popped in my mind. It was either damaged or the previous owner was weird like me and likes what he likes. I have a non vented hood primed and ready for paint for my QV. I just haven't gotten around to fooling with it.
I heard, that carb and 2V-i-cars never overheat, if the system works o.k. And that QV-cars are prone to overheating even with the vented hood. What's the reason for QV-cars being much more sensitive regarding their cooling system? Ah, and welcome back Brian. Best from Germany Martin
Yep. And I need that too. I like the 76-82 non vent look and 90% of the reason that hood is still sitting upright behind a chair downstairs is because I have a plan drawn up with re-configuring my spare tire well to allow for two puller fans before I put it on. I have a temp spare that will give me the room to tilt it up and back. I want to cut the nose out of the well, refiberglass it and paint it black so it looks like nothing was done (unless one of us is looking at it). I was digging around Rutlands last year looking for a donor because I'm not cutting mine up. This is one of those things that, it if doesn't "work" I can just put it back like it was. It has been on my to do list off and on since 1997. I'm not joking.
