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360 crash after F50 cut him off

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  1. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    #51 BMW.SauberF1Team, Jan 15, 2019
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    Both driver's are dumb, but it was the F50's fault without knowing the lead up to the camera car. Crossing over 2 lanes into the slow lane at a high rate of speed obviously caused all of that. The 360 driver probably has slow reflexes and wasn't fast enough to brake and instincts said to go left.

    I will place more blame on the 360 driver if I see video prior to overtaking the camera car. If the 360 was always speeding in the slow lane, he's less at fault as the F50 driver should have known a speeding car was in that lane before blindly moving 2 lanes over there. If he (360) was behind the F50 in the fast lane and cut to the slow lane prior to the camera car and F50 didn't know back then, the 360 is more at fault.
     
  2. Streetsurfer

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    Could have been avoided by checking mirrors and using brakes, or not taking the bait in the first place. Pure Adrenaline, which shows they were into it with each other before, is pretty obvious. Nobody comes out on top racing on public roads. Even if you “win”, you both look the fool.
     
  3. Craig Campbell

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    360 driver is not a very good driver. They were both playing around in traffic and if you watch the video closely the 360 actually sped up to cut off the F50 too late in his blind spot. 360 had clear vision of everything and is at least 90% at fault.
     
  4. msnare

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    Boys race on the street. Men race on the track.
     
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  5. Douglas Apelian

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    Dangerous stuff like this should be left on the track boys where everyone knows the risks and accepts them. That being said I would never want to drive near the 360 even if it was on a track. Many ways he/she could have avoided the destruction of a beautiful auto. In the end if you want to play you better be ready.
     
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  6. I'm 360 Canuck

    I'm 360 Canuck Formula 3

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    The problem is, when’s the last time someone on this forum, any other sports cars forum, or for that matter, any man, has said “...I’m not a very good driver...”? Never. No man is ever that self aware/honest with themselves...and I’m willing to bet that applies to some people here as well.
    That’s why it’s best to keep it to the track. Otherwise, you have a false sense of security that accidents like this only happen to dummies and therefore, it’s acceptable for you and I to drive like this on streets.
     
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  7. Streetsurfer

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    #57 Streetsurfer, Jan 17, 2019
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    I think many professional drivers can with humility and lack of arrogance and no false sense of security call themselves good drivers, or they may not have chosen or excelled in the profession. I am willing to admit my mistakes, most of the time, hehe. Even to they law that stopped me, when In fact, I was the one that flubbed it.

    When I see stuff like this highway confrontation, I think of the ways it could have been avoided, the principles I was tought in helping to avoid accidents, and as well, the many times something did go wrong and what I learned from it and purposed to do instead going forward.

    I’ve rode with terrible drivers and I think you are right.....not likely they’d say they weren’t a very good driver, in spite of all the miles they’ve recklessly logged.
     
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  8. Oversteer40

    Oversteer40 Rookie

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    I agree that racing on the street is irresponsible and dangerous and people should be held accountable for their actions, especially with powerful cars it should be done on a track in a safe environment.

    However the 360 driver's skill level could have been tested in other less reckless situations everyday out on the roads, seen it many times when trying to avoid an incident/collision, drivers over correct/react(usually brain fart and give up) and loose control, and its the faulty set of inputs/lack of useful inputs to the car from the driver that are the cause 100%.

    Its not like the car been driven, is not more capable than most of good handling characteristic.

    Wouldn't want to be driving on hwy at speed or on a track with the 360 driver ever.

    Man's gotta know his limitations.
     
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  9. Ingenere

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    Could have just been 2 guys guilty of DWA. :)
     
  10. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    I wonder if either of the drivers, or owners of the cars if different, are members of this forum and are reading our comments! It would be good to get their first hand account of their actions, bet their versions are more bullish than conciliatory!
     
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  11. riccardone

    riccardone Karting

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    In that situation, what do you think happens if the 360 sees the F50 coming in and decides to go through the gap before it closes and floors it? The F50 backs off or it ends poorly?
     
  12. daytona355

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    Hopefully he’d have the good sense to realise the F50 has the power to blast him away, so he wouldn’t dare make such a stupid move, it would only end in two destroyed beautiful cars.... at least only one got totalled, and it was the less rare and expensive model
     
  13. Ferrari 308 GTB

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  14. daytona355

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    Christ, someone decided a Toyota sedan was sporty, and decided to race with a similarly unlikely cheap SUV? Those people terrify me, cos they must be ****ing crazy anyway.
     
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  15. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Yeh people in that part of the world are generally a bit placid/lazy ...but behind the wheel a LOT of them turn into crazed idiots,with no manners /common etc etc sense you name it.
     
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  16. daytona355

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    Worst places I ever drove for nutters had to be the various emerging countries of the old soviet empire..... those guys seemed to drive in a daze, but usually fast cars around them bred some kind of sense out of them (they probably thought we were Russian mafia and they’d get shot if they got in the way) but people that take the most unprepared sedan and try to race in it are just nuts..... no handling, no brakes, and likely a pretty underachieving driver behind the wheel makes for some terrifying manoeuvres!
     
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