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Discussion in '348/355' started by yelcab, Jan 31, 2019.

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  1. yelcab

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  2. SoCal1

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    Those work well I have the full set, use it more often then I thought
     
  3. aballas

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    Use mine all the time. It's a great tool. Someone should jump on this .
     
  4. steved033

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  5. yelcab

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    DANG IT!
     
  7. fatbillybob

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    OK! Did Mitchell inform you of the rules of STT , "Stooge Tool Transfer"? You have to use the tool and show your work on Fchat to help teach the next Stooge.
     
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  8. SoCal1

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  9. phrogs

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    Awesome tool! Congrats to the new owner.
     
  10. kenneyd

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    Awesome tool, love mine
     
  11. Ferrarium

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    All I ever bled was motorcycles with the 348 the brakes and clutch using the same fluid, I have been reluctant to swap brake lines due to lack of experience bleeding cars let alone one that shares clutch with brakes. Is there a specific write up or video one can refer me to. Yes I see them out there but is there one people here can attest to?
     
  12. yelcab

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    hook up a motive bleeder with fluid, pump up to 15 psi
    hook up a drain line from a catcher bottle to the caliper being bled
    crack open the bleeder screw using 11mm wrench
    watch the fluid drain out for about a minute and close the bleeder screw if there is no bubble
    Move to next wheel caliper
    Then place a bottle / catcher directly under the clutch bleeder screw, crack open the screw using 13mm wrench
    Watch the fluid drain out for 15 seconds. Close it if no bubble.
    Remove the Motive bleeder, and suck out the fluid from the reservoir to make sure it does not exceed the maximum line
    Done.
     
  13. Ferrarium

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    Ok that's pretty straight forward same as a Mity-vac on a motorcycle. I've never done multiple calipers on one system. I would have assumed with empty reservoir one would need to crack all the bleeders to prime the whole system then close them off and then start the individual bleed process. Thanks Mitchell.
     
  14. GTO Joe

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    Interesting thread. I decided earlier this week to retire my old Motive unit and ordered the above. The man in the big brown truck droped it off yesterday so I haven't had a chance to use it yet. It has some neat features the Motive doesn't have like the qiuck disconnect at the end of the filler tube with a shut off valve. It also has a push button pressure release at the orange filler cap and includes a number of attachements for use in different situations. Cost is about the same as the Motive. Just thought I would share with the group. :)
     
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    Hilariously, I didn't get it. Unless mystery man #1 backed out.
     
  16. DrStranglove

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    Ok for the noobs here, what is that thing?
     
  17. kenneyd

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    Its for bleeding the brakes, or clutch. no more 2 person job with pushing the pedal, and cracking and closing the valve dozens of times.
    With this you simply pump it up, and crack the valve and let it flow until done. Quick, one person job
     
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  18. Ferrari Fanatic

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    Also used for flushing entire brake/clutch hydraulic system . They run off of the same reservoir.

    So fresh fluid with no moisture, gives piece of mind on track day of not boiling fluid and losing your brakes. Late braking on the long high speed straightaway or really on any part of the track would ruin anyone’s day.
     
  19. DrStranglove

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    Ok thanks guys!
     
  20. TGreene

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    I have used the Motive for years and love it. Pays for itself in one use, IMO. I like the look at that replacement, though.
     
  21. WATSON

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    How doe sit work? You pumpo it up and draw fluid through the system? or pump it up and pressurize the brake reservoir and push the fluid through?
     
  22. GTO Joe

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    The intended method is to fill the Motive jug with fresh brake fluid after attaching to reservoir and then pump up the pressure to approx. 15lbs. forcing the fluid into the mc and through the system when you open each bleeder. Many people just use it as an easy way to just push fluid from the mc by pumping up pessure and avoiding any mess at the end when you disconnect the unit. Problem with this method is the necessity to keep an eye on the mc and keep it from going empty and having air enter the system. Hope this helps.
     
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  23. Ferrarium

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    Quick clarification
    1) This will presumably push the old fluid from the master cylinder also so no need to extract fluid then refill it first
    2) No need to turn key to accessory even for the rear calipers, ore pressurizing system will push though the pump to the rear calipers
     

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