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01406 246 GT at RM Sothebys Paris

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  1. 375+

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  2. Neelfryer

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    that estimated sale range is $384k to $448k

    sharing because I actually took the minute to google the conversion

    But there is a guy on here who knows a bit about this car...

    Can't wait to hear from him !
     
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  3. Bluebottle

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    While I happen to love that colour, it is not to everyone's taste, which may limit its market and depress the price.
     
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    Great color, reasonable car...
     
  5. 4CamGT

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    Only two people bidding need to really love it!
     
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    Actually, only one is needed. I've seen or known it happen, more than once.
     
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  7. 375+

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    One and the auctioneer;)
     
  8. cnpapa24

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    Only until reserve.
     
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  9. 375+

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    That is correct for a reserve auction and I am fine with that. In a No Reserve offering the auctioneer cannot participate unless bidding on behalf of an absentee bidder. Moot point as this car is offered with a reserve. I think this is a terrific color for a Dino.
     
  10. TTR

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    OK, you got me there ;)

    While I don’t attend or follow auctions much, I know of, have met & seen several individuals, including couple of clients & friends gotten drawn into bidding contest with a chandelier or fictional(?) entity in the room or on the phone, just because it was clear (to “the house”) they were willing to pay almost anything to “win” that lot.
    Some have even admitted realizing it afterwards. :rolleyes:

    OTOH, I assume I’m far from only one having witnessed some “World Record !” or other astounding claims hammered “Sold !” with no apparent real bids anywhere near the given figures and the item in question completely disappearing from public view for awhile, only to re-appear months or years later at another auction venue, often hosted by the same “house”. o_O
     
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  12. TTR

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    :)

    BTW, I just love the (now) uncommon, period correct colors like the 01406 has & was(?) born with.
    If I was in the market for a Dino, this would be worthwhile consideration.
    Probably a well sorted example one could drive the wheels off.
     
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  13. GermanDino

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    I sold this Dino 3 years ago to the current owner at the high end of the actual auction price range....
    was my driver, used it at many Dino meetings, good memories.....
    good car when I sold it, but no Concours condition...
    price range seems reasonably to me
     
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    That would certainly stand out at any Ferrari meeting among the usual sea of red.
     
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  16. 375+

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    Result was 331,250 Euro, IMO very good in this market.
     
  17. cnpapa24

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    I thought it was a good buy for someone in Europe. Very rare and desirable color plus the Matthias provenance. Once you have to convert to dollars and import it starts to make less sense.
     
  18. GermanDino

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    I do agree…. car comes back to Germany at a fair price… as said before it`s not in Concours condition….
     
  19. Bluebottle

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    Looked pretty good though. :)

    Do you know the new owner Matthias?
     
  20. GermanDino

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    not personally…..
     
  21. cnpapa24

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    I was trying to make sense of it coming here but it was over $400k US delivered.
     
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    Provenance has its price--but I agree with you it is probably $75K north of the market here in the USA.
     
  23. cnpapa24

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    Respectfully, I would say given that it is a Euro spec, in a highly desirable color, with a somewhat recent restoration overseen by a reknown Dino expert, this car would not be bought for $325k. Even though it was enjoyed by Matthias, I’d wager it would not take a lot to bring this back to Concours condition. The money was about $25k high for me, which is really the shipping and import.

    To look at it another way, for what I sold my Pino verde car for to a dealer, I couldn’t get it to this condition at $325k all in.
     
  24. cls

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    Are you saying it was too high or too low? I can't quite make sense of your post.
     
  25. cnpapa24

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    I was responding to +375s comment of this being a $325k car in the US. I think it was a good buy for someone in Europe but was hard for me to get there after exchange rate and import. I was about $25k off versus +375s assessment of $75k high for the US market. My assessment was that this would be a $375k car in the US. I hope that clarifies.
     
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