Now this...

Just double-check, but certfied should mean it comes with a warranty.
In any case, my thoughts are that in the current market there is room for price negociation, so you better try...

 

Could you tell us why you did not buy the first one You just said ruled out but what is the reason?

1) 2014 not bad but all the buttons are very sticky so add to your budget an amount to redo them ( i am thinking 5k?)
2) 2012 carfax issue as you said . If minor not a problem unless you want to resale it quickly. But very few options as well. Inside is "boring"
2013) As you said some interesting options like racing seats but no driving zone LED ( often a deal breaker)

I am guessing you are focused on a spider rosso corsa under 200k?

 

I like the 458 in North Carolina. 2 of your 3 cars were on my search too but I ended up with the 1 in Orlando. My only reason for not getting the one in NC was I wanted tan leather. The NC car has more carbon fiber than the car I got in Orlando. Good luck!

 

Why are the front fins and rear diffuser on the 2014 red? Did someone paint them aftermarket? The black wheels and interior would be a dealbreaker for me on that car.

 

Hahaha, lots of threads on sticky buttons. Basically everything that’s plastic on the inside is clear coated with a material that degrades over time. It becomes gluelike and cannot simply be rubbed off or cleaned. This includes all bezels, knobs, switches, etc. Heat and humidity seem to exacerbate the problem.

The only way to fix it properly (my car has some) is to remove the pieces by dismantling the dash, and have one of several companies restore them. There are two great companies that advertise or are sponsors on this site. Not cheap when you account for labor in and out.

I’d figure it in the price, but not a dealbreaker as it’s not major surgery, like brakes or transmission, but it will set you back a few g’s or more, depending on how anal you are about the interior being perfect.

 

FIRST: get a an independent Pre Purchase Inspection ! Someone else who inspects the car for you. No emotion involved by you.

All things that are not correct should be listed and estimate costs added.

Do not buy on your own !!! We have seen that here too often …

Only buy the car that REALLY strikes you, and gives no hesitation at all.

Good hunting

 

Scott, I will lurk and learn vicariously through you as I will be in the market soon also. Same, first time buyer looking under 200K as much carbon as possible, lowest miles but I primarily will be looking for black.

 

Look this picture of the NC car for example . This is what sticky means
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Welcome to sticky ferrari world. No one can escape the stickiness!

 

This is a fly trap. Lol

 

X2 on the ppi. Seriously no matter where it comes from. I have a ton of pics to compare the car as to when it shows up from Florida to from when it left fl.

 

Hi Jack, do you have a PPI form as example ? Or via mail ? ([email protected])

 

I'll send you over what I got from Maranello. It was also important to talk to the owner Bruce just to get his more detailed impression of the car. In the past I purchased a diablo 6.0 without a ppi. The deal turned out fine I bought, enjoyed, then sold the car at a profit. If I did a ppi I would have bought a better condition Diablo. I made sure this Ferrari was in top shape. Bruce actually found a few minor scratches I missed but I can live with. This is why you do a ppi! They find things you don't.

 

Scott. Fyi my buttons are slightly sticky on a 13 with 2500 miles. I am planning on replacing sticky in a year or two. Check the dash leather. I have heard that is more difficult to fix.

 

This car looks good. A lot of carbon and the best seats IMO ( not electrical in case you dont know).
If good PPI certainly a deal doable at 195K .
looks a good deal to me

 

I’m not sure exactly what warranty comes with a Ferrari certified but if it’s one year of the new power warranty there are still plenty of things this warranty doesn’t cover and should at least be documented in the inspection done to certify it. Still wouldnt hurt to get an independant ppi done to ensure that all issues are caught. Haven’t heard anything negative about Foreign cars Italia but you never know. It’s also not going to hurt to offer a bit lower price worst that can happen is they say no, just offer a fair price to start with and expect a counter offer. Happy hunting, a 458 spider is certainly one of my top 5 cars I’d like to own.

 

my understanding is...

If your car passes the PPI and the certification inspection, then your car is eligible for new power.

Until Jan 1, 2019, $5000 bought you 1 year. Now, $5000 buys you 2 years upfront. Furthermore, at most dealers when a certified car is sold, it comes with new power; if it doesn't, it should.

Although power doesn't cover everything it has LOTS of perks and I HIGHLY recommend it for peace of mind.

 

There's an example that I passed on, but looked to be well-specced and in good shape. I bet they'd go down to 195k.
If you want I can drop you a name