Prime Air 767 Down, 3 Aboard

There is no shortage of crazy and stupid people. It just proves we didn't put them all in political office.

 

There are a few of them still debating 9/11 as a conspiracy in the P&R subforum.

 

yeah I don't get that. Sometimes that comes up, and I have no idea why.

 

"This thread does not exist" is what I got.

 

hmmm. Was looking at this https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Turboprop&make=BAE&model=AVRO+RJ70&listing_id=2328856&s-type=aircraft and stumbled into this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Southwest_Airlines_Flight_1771

 

You never heard of that one? A rather infamous incident.

 

I don't remember it and some people from my '"hood" died in it.

 

Had to be well published at the time, the read on it is amazing. They broke the sound barrier just before hitting the rock hill at about a 70 degree dive, and it says they left only a 2 by 4 foot crater. That surprised me. Then they found the remains of the .44 with the tip of the killers finger in the tiger guard, and were able to lift a partial finger tip to identify him. What a monster, all over a $69.00 thief charge and firing, killing all of those people including the US President of Chevron along with three other company officials. Plus three high ranking officials of Pacific Bell. Crazy. It changed corporate travel for high level executives.

So, not out of the real of possibility that something happened in this 767 cockpit, but highly unlikely as we would know by now. Just odd that it would dive into the ground like this.

 

How would we know by now? Have they recovered both black boxes and analyzed them?

 

Well an about to be fired employee at FedEx nearly took down one of their planes a number of years ago. I understand he wanted to crash it into their main package handling facility. One of the crew who was badly injured managed, just barely to stop him.

 

There is a great book about that, and some very good online interviews with the surviving crewmembers. If you ever want to get a FedEx pilot worked up, mention the name "Auburn Calloway." He was in the news a few years back when he applied to President Obama for clemency... didn't get it, thankfully!

 

I'll have to look for it. I had a friend at the time with FedEx management. He told me the back story a day after it happened. They were very lucky how it turned out.

 

I believe this is the book:

https://www.amazon.com/Hijacked-Dave-Hirschman/dp/0440226473

Excellent read.

Even better is this interview with Jim Tucker, who was the FO:

https://www.avweb.com/news/profiles/182918-1.html

 

CVR has been recovered from the crash scene.

 

I think he was a jump seat guy who was just about to start with one of the majors.

 

Yes, he was a captain that flew for Mesa for a number of years.
Lived in Houston.
Was just hired by United... had not started with them yet, though.

 

Well, now that Kathryn's Report seems to be working normally again, the post about this crash has mysteriously disappeared from there.....

 

The Prime Air crash disappeared before K's Report went AWOL... said "Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist".
Just as it does now.

Even though it DID exist the day before.

 

FDR has been recovered as well.

 

This one?

http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2019/03/boeing-767-375-operated-by-atlas-air.html

 

This just in:

About 18 seconds before the black box stopped recording, the crew members made communications "consistent with a loss control of the aircraft," investigators said. They had already radioed the air traffic control tower at Bush, which is 40 miles away from the crash site.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/NTSB-Atlas-Air-crew-might-have-lost-control-18-13664793.php​

 

I'm guessing that they turned off the autopilot and at that point the aircraft nosed down. Why? That would be the big mystery.

 

He was supposed to be in class at United this week. They left his seat in indoc open and presented his United wings and epaulettes to his widow-- a classy and appropriate thing to do.

 

I can see a dip in the nose from turning off the autopilot, but why was there no attempt to pull out? Most pilots would have nearly pulled the wings off trying to get her leveled. After all, what is a few degrees of extra dihedral compared to that steep an impact?