I love my GTB and GTS brothers but don't you think there should be a separate 308 DinoGT4 forum?
No. Same car mechanically as any other 308. In reality there shouldn't even be a Mondial forum. Lots going on here that would benefit them they are missing and vise versa. It would just be worse if you broke out the GT4's. There is no good reason to dividing it up more than it is and good reasons it shouldn't be as divided up as it is.
IIRC, the Mondial guys broke away from the 308/328 section not too long ago. We were all one big happy family back in the good old days.
No reason to split it up. Tell me something about the GT4 that does not apply to a 308/328 other than it has 4 seats.
It does rust. It is Bertone. And because of the longer wheelbase, it also handles a bit better! Wiki reference, courtesy of our own Mr. Garvin, "The GT4 was the only 2+2 Ferrari ever raced with factory support."
Just look at the Mondial guys after they defected a few years ago, they regretted it. Like being on an isolated island. The GT4 on the other hand, is the original 308, and the baseline for all of the following V8 Ferrari's. So, no harm to do really, except to segregate the owners ego's maybe? I think it's a bad idea.
Maybe the different body, different interior, different coach builder? It may have the same engine or engine block as the 308, but so what? There are other car manufacturer that uses the 308 engine block but you don’t see them in the 308/328 section, I’m just saying.
So the Vintage sub-forum should be divided into about 50-100 different sub-forums, because they're all different bodies, different interiors and different designer/coach-builders, even though many used the Colombo engine blocks? There's a balance between finely dicing sub-forums to the point that a only half-dozen people are talking to each other and each sub-forum dies out or there's enough activity and cross-fertilization that there's always something new or different being discussed even if it's not exactly your car. Not saying there should or shouldn't, but give some real reasons. The OP felt the need to make the post, I would like to know what he was missing or felt was obstructive or non-constructive in the forums that compelled him to do so. A similar question was recently raised in the 458/488 subforum because a few 458 owners felt like they were getting into arguments with 488 owners as the 488 owners felt their cars were better and said so. That was more a moderation concern than it was a categorization issue. P.S. I don't get to make that call, but I might weigh in if the question gets taken more seriously.
The Mondi is the ultimate evolution of this particular V8 line & is the best car technologically of the whole lot all round. The GT4 is the ultimate vintage 308 & I'd like them to stay here so they can remind us how it's way cooler & a better driver and a better old school car than even a vetro. I'd love to see the Mondi guys back here so they can remind us how much better the car is than the 328. I'm not joking. Without these guys, it'll be an echo chamber of fake bar bragging.
Actually it handles better because it has better weight distribution and a far stiffer chassis. Great cars.
Mines a 208 GT4 from Italy and I feel at home here having done the suspension bush overhaul, Taken advice on the aerial , speedo sensor , bumper rubber. As said in terms of mechanics the more the merrier. Feels like a natural fit . I know there’s not a lot of 2x8,s ( inc turbos ) in Bertone dress or Pininfarina dress , but does not seem right splitting way the Bertone boys . Been watching the 14 vs 16 inch wheel debate as mines a unmolested 14 in cromadora modal .That thread crosses both body shops as an example .
As a GT4 guy, I feel it is best to keep together. Repairs, tips, tricks, modernization, hot rodding are the same on the cars. The only thing really bespoke are the body and interior. The chassis and construction are basically the same. I like that when I am researching, i pretty much can find info in one place. I like that I can ask a question and usually get an answer. I vote for a hard no GT4 "rexit"
BTW - Just took a look at the 308/328 forum vs Mondial forum and this forum seems to get about 3x the activity as measured by the number of active threads in the last week. Also, something added recently to a few other forums are thread tags. So 348/355, 360/430 and 458/488 forums now have the option of tagging a new thread with the model if the thread creator deems it useful to be specific. This could be added to here as well.
Good idea. I think you should consider adding the mondials back to th 308 section and then use thread tags for specific model questions.
Maybe it is the GTB/S that should leave this forum. Like it or not every 308, in fact every mid engine V8 Ferrari, has GT4 DNA. I don't see any reason to split this forum up. I would say that the vast majority of threads involve the drive train and suspension topics which both cars share (yea, I know there are a few part # exceptions). If separated one could easily miss important info and discussions if you don't go through 2 forums instead of just one. I remember when the Mondial guys split off (at least their later models have the engine pointing in the wrong direction) and since then they have to visit 2 forums. I guess we could have a "Pininfarina only" forum for designer snobs complete with a secret password to keep the riff-raff out.
Bertone rust on a 308 GT4 is ridiculous. I have a '72 Bertone Alfa 2000 GTV. This one teached me about REAL rust. I have my 308 GTB, because I grew up with my dad's GT4. So I vote for staying together. Best from Germany Martin
