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  1. deichenb

    deichenb Formula Junior

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    Hi,

    I am cleaning out an old storage unit and found the original Gooyear Eagles off my ex-328 s/n 80360. They are cool, but I have no use for them any longer. I have them listed on eBay, item number 230832706505.

    Forza,
    David
     
  2. Robz328

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    "Would I drive on these vintage Ferrari tires? No. Except onto a show field where they will get your car a "Pop," perhaps to that Best V8 Award that you've been eyeing. After you get your trophy, put your modern tires back on. These Goodyears are over 20 years old and sold for show purposes only."


    nice disclaimer.
     
  3. deichenb

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    Thanks! I enjoyed writing it. The tires are kind of like the 400mm's available for 250's with the smaller Borranis - for the "lawn" much moreso than the street. That's why many guys put the optional 16" wheels on their early cars for drives/events/tours despite having 400's on the build sheet and the show field!

    The best use for these old tires would be on a second set (or the original set) of perfect 16" 328 wheels.

    Forza,
    David
     
  4. Longstone Tyres

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  5. QV308

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  6. Rosey

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    If you could get me a set of new 2019 made period correct Goodyear Eagles in those two dimensions I'd be even happier.
    :)
     
  7. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Really??

    Never liked them. Not sorry they are gone.
     
  8. Rosey

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    Well it will come as no surprise to know I still have the original full sized unused Goodyear spare in my car.
    Would love to have an additional set of usable matching Goodyears for the rest of the car, even if I was just for use in shows or for occasional driving use.
     
  9. Longstone Tyres

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    I'm afraid i don't currently have any clout with Goodyear, but Pirelli are really coming up trumps.

    Because i now have the perfect 328 tyres, i am happy to build a web page about them https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classic-car-tyres/ferrari/ferrari-328.html

    it will get filled in with detail as time goes by. However any data, pictures & evidence about 328 tyre fitment that you could supply like old adverts or fitment guides i would very much appreciate. Oo i like tyre pressure data specially in pictorial form to.

    thanks.

    oh while i think on, in the near future Pirelli will also supply a 245/45R16 as well.i don't suppose this was ever of interest to the 328 was it?
     
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  10. nerofer

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    Recommended tyre pressure for the 328s can be found inside the small box in the center console, between the seats ("Glove box for GTSs, spare cassette rack for GTBs").
    See "2.1" paragraph in the enclosed link for this page hereunder:

    For the Michelin MXX, only fitted to french cars and only after March 1988, it was: 2,3 bars front; 2,4 bars rear.
    For US cars with Goodyear Eagle, it was 33 psi front, 36 rear.

    http://www.308-328.com/328/328guideachaten.html

    Rgds
     
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  11. Longstone Tyres

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    That is brilliant thank you.

    those tyre pressures are similar to ones i got from a Michelin book that lists 33psi & 35psi rear. I have another American book which lists 33 & 36. However the pressures i listed are from a Pirelli fitment guide, and i thought, as i was recommending Pirelli tyres i should list their pressure recommendation. I also often er towards the higher pressure recommendation as they are safer, ie cover high speed & fully loaded recommendations etc.

    What i will do is collect any more data that turns up on here then write a bit of text collating that and explaining my recommendations which will hopefully arm people to make their own mind up from as much detail as i can collect.
     
  12. Martin308GTB

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    I don't know, why you didn't like them and you probably won't tell me. But I actually have to agree. I purchased my car back then with a two years old set of GY Eagles and never again experienced a tyre on the 308 with such a small, or non existent dynamic transition range.
    I actually experienced a dangerous situation when I had my car for one week and wasn't familiar yet with the car's mid-engined layout. I still blame the tyres for that.

    Best tyres for driving I had, were the Michelin Pilot Sport 1.series. Though not the nicest thread style for a 70s car. I now have Pirelli P Zero Nero, which are looking much better, but I'm not happy with them. Too soft. Too spongy. Though idiot-proof, what the Eagles definitely were not. They didn't forgive any driver errors.

    Best Regards
    Martin
     
  13. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    They were just an OK tire. Not great by any standard. They were better than the TRX they replaced but that was it. Also when driven hard regularly the tread blocks wore very unevenly and became very noisy like an aggressive mud and snow tire.
     
  14. Martin308GTB

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    This I noticed too and first thought it's the tire behaviour itself. Until I had to purchase a fresh rear pair and wanted to stick to the Eagles till the front ones were worn. I got the impression, that that 'rough feeling' was slightly better and now more on the front axle, but came back also on the rear after a while.
    Anyway, I was glad, when the front ones were worn and I could fit the Pilot Sports. A different world.

    I think, it may not so important in Texas. But in the rain, the Eagles were complete crap.

    Best Regards
    Martin
     
  15. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #15 Rifledriver, Mar 8, 2019
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    Texas is famous for big rain storms and flooded roads. Stevie Ray Vaughn sang a song "it's floodin down in Texas and the telephone lines are down". He lived here in Austin.
    Here is a picture of the tunnel at the F1 race track. Its plenty big for big trucks.
     

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  16. Martin308GTB

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    Of course. Sorry, I just had a wrong picture of Texas.
    A really great, great record (R.I.P.):

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    Best Regards
    Martin
     
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  17. nerofer

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    Indeed! "Texas flood" was released by Stevie Ray Vaughan in 1983, but the original release of the song was by Larry Davis in 1958, if my memory, etc...
    Rgds
     
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  18. Martin308GTB

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    Hey Bruno,
    from tyres to music :)
    I like the SRV-version better, though L.Davis of course deserves the main credit.
    But there are more examples. Dylan songs are the best example. He supplied the rough diamonds while others grind the brilliant out of them.

    Best Regards
    Martin
     
  19. Rifledriver

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  20. Martin308GTB

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    Not to forget credits for his other band members. Being a hobbyist rock Hammond-organ player, I just love this. Also from the Texas Flood album:

    from 0:42:



    Best Regards
    Martin
     
  21. Rifledriver

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    My ex was a professional keyboard player and her favorite was a Hammond B3. Mostly rock but she loved playing gospel and got hired for some interesting gospel gigs.
     
  22. Martin308GTB

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    Sorry for your loss.

    Best Regards
    Martin
     
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  24. Martin308GTB

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    Yes indeed. They are great looking. But how are they regarding driveability? Are there meanwhile any test results existing?
    There was a lot of technical progress during the last 30-40 years regarding tyres. And though I also love a thread pattern which fits my car, at the end of the day I think 'form follows function'. I want to have a safe feeling when often caught in rain. A nice tire with a beautiful thread pattern is fairly useless when slippery.
    Even more given the price of those classic P7s.

    Best from Germany
    Martin
     
  25. Wade

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    Good questions. If I had a show-worthy 328 I'd have two sets of wheels - one for "normal driving" and the other, with the P7s, for winning trophys. :)
     

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