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Why are we so slow?

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  1. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    90% of Ferrari fans on here said they wont be watching this year after Saturday's qualifying. Also some said they would stop supporting Ferrari if they hired Hamilton. So not many real supporters here
     
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  2. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Heating issues..................
     
  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    packaged too tight?
     
  4. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yep
     
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  5. P.Singhof

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    You meant the name giving sponsor is German [emoji6]

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  6. 635CSI

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    Worrying, but surely would have been apparent in Barcelona long runs?
    Or was the air that much cooler there v Melbourne.
    Does ambient air temp make much of a difference to the cooling of an F1 engine?
    If so why were we getting slower as the race went into the cooler evening?

    I guess the days off just punching a bigger hole in the bodywork are long gone and improving cooling is a major design issue?
     
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  7. Nortonious

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    #82 Nortonious, Mar 19, 2019
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    oh boy.

    Are we talking simple modifications or a major redesign? I wonder if the stacked exhausts will stay.
     
  8. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Correct. Barcelona was, at times 3 degrees C in the morning to 17 degrees C at noon. So it was cold.

    Melbourne's temp at the start of the race was 26 degrees C...so hot.

    Putting slats on the engine cover for cooling disrupts the airflow.

    I will say this, I saw pics of MB changing the cooling duct (behind the driver) when compared from testing to Melbourne.

    I believe Honda/Redbull picked up on this as well-->package being too tight prior to the Melbourne GP.
     
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  10. jcurry

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    Simple, go faster --> more cooling;)
     
  11. Bas

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    Red Bull did, and got to work. They are saying that currently their chassis and aero isn't up to par but the engine is brilliant...I'm not 100% if I buy that but they did modify their car before Melbourne, so could well be the reason why they have some aero/chassis issues. Still, Red Bull sees an issue and directly works at it, instead of the Italians who seem to go completely into disarray at the mere sight of a problem.
     
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  12. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    And so why are you on here ?
     
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  13. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    To discuss about F1 in general, and analyse the racing.

    Does that answer your question?
     
  14. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Although I don't recall Vettel moaning when cruising past Hamilton without DRS at Spa :D
     
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  15. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Yes, although you're not really in the "We" are you, so you are on the cusp of being a Troll in this particular thread ;)
     
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  16. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Exactly !!

    And Mercedes was not afraid to relocate its F1 effort in UK where the best conditions to build a successful team exist.
     
  17. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Relocate?

    They bought Brawn, which was Honda, which was BAR...which was Tyrrell. It always was UK based.
     
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  18. CRG125

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    So you would be a Ferrari fan if Hamilton was in the seat?
     
  19. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    You couldn't be further from the truth.
    I have been following F1 in a non-partisan way since 1961: Hamilton wasn't even born then!
    I don't support any particular team or driver; I am only interested in the racing.
    I have admired many drivers in that period, like Clark or Lauda, or Prost and Hakkinen, etc ...
    I like to "give to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar" to quote the Bible, and give recognition to whoever deserves it.
    If Hamilton was to leave tomorrow, someone else would replace him, and I will have no problem with that.
     
  20. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    They relocated their management from Germany to Britain when they decided to form their own team, didn't they?

    Mercedes is still a German company, isn't it?
     
  21. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I think you should report my post, and let the moderator decide if I am a Troll.

    I only need to make one personal casual observation about Ferrari, and suddenly people feel hot under the collar and think it's sacrilege.

    I have read many Ferrari fans criticising their team too...
     
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  22. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    [MelbourneGP] So here's the cooling duct behind the driver, behind the AMG logo and behind the HALO support. It's larger in this pic.

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    Here's testing.....no duct on this one.

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    here's another one during testing....different cooling duct config.

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  23. Bas

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    Not sure I see relocating some management really is comparable saying they relocated their F1 effort, the latter really implies they moved the whole lot.
     
  24. SimCity3

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    Love the way Mercedes flaunts it's apparent Sliver Arrows heritage.

    Mercedes F1 is certainly no longer a German company using German talent :D
     
  25. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie

    Yes, but you appear to have made criticizing Ferrari one of your lifetime missions.

    There are plenty of other F1 Forums where your views would be welcome with open arms.
     
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