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Berger says Hamilton's is Senna's equal

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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You should know better, but you always want to have the last word on anything. You don't know when to let go ...
     
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  2. ATBNM3

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    I said that I agree with F1 Divers current and former F1 Bosses current and former and F1 team's current and former over internet drivers and they all have the same things to say about Hamilton and his driving and his career. You can disagree all you want but no major website or F1 media is going to pick up on it. Only here on Ferrarichat will it ever be seen.
     
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  3. P.Singhof

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    I see, now it is all my fault...
    But still I think it is funny that your last post saying comparisons of drivers are useless is liked by the one who started this thread with an article about a comparison. Makes we wonder whether some actually read and understand the posts they like or whether they simple like it because it was written by xyz against zyx...
     
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  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You see, you are doing it again !

    You always want to beat your opponent into submission like it was a wrestling contest , and have the last word.

    For you a forum is open warfare. Just relax and let go ...
     
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  5. kraftwerk

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    The phrase he'd talk a glass eye to sleep, springs to mind ;)

    I believe that fundamentally most of Hamilton's detractors cannot deny he is a very good driver, they can fill there boots laughing at what he wears/says/acts ect. but surely not how he drives a F1 car. Now Berger has now put him on a level with Senna, well yes that will rattle some cages for sure as I stated earlier on, but it is his respected and more than qualified opinion, obviously not everyone will agree, however I'd be interested to see if anyone thinks he is totally overrated, or lets say a poor driver that just gets lucky....
     
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  6. william

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    The problem is that this is a Ferrari forum, and Hamilton is seen as the enemy, so any praise is misplaced, perhaps.
    But the moderators are fine with that as long as there is no trolling, explétives, personnel attacks and so on.
    I remember that Vettel was villified on Ferrarichat when he was winning his titles at Red Bull, and beating Ferrari.
    Since he joined Ferrari though, he became quitte accepted, and some defend him in spite of really poor driving last year that cost his team the championship, IMO.
    Everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt, and we should all be more mature anyway; an opinion is just that, an opinion.
     
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  7. P.Singhof

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    And you do not think that this point is left behind when stuff like this comes up
    And remember: you LIKED that...
    So please do not behave like you virtuous people only mention their opinion until the "vitriol unhinged" come by and destroy this holy forum.
    By the way: did you realize that "the wizer one gives in" is normally the favourite sentence of the "less intelligent"? That way they can still feel superior when they ran out of arguments or ideas ;)
     
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  8. kraftwerk

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    The F1 section as far as I'am aware is for fans of all marques, which is great IMO, if you can find something everyone agrees on, it's bound be wrong besides the fact it be really boring..:)

    But agreed I like to read the forum without child like comments.
     
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  9. william

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    You never give up, do you ?

    Most people don't feel the need to prove their intelligence: only the insecure tries to.

    Now go and smell the coffee ...
     
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  10. P.Singhof

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    So you and your buddy go on and on and then you complain "you never give up, do you".
    You blamed me in your super pm that I would like to censor opinions but to me it looks like you try to silence other people...It is also interesting that you guys now left the part of the discussion that consists of arguments and facts behind you to go for a general rant about the forum and the "childish comments" of other people and the unfair treatment of Lewis in a Ferrari-driven forum. Also the cloths of Lewis are mentioned although they were NEVER part of the discussion but that does not keep you guys from doing so, it also did not keep you from mentioning Schumacher or Seb in this thread.
    But yes, maybe it is my fault: we have been told often enough that Lewis attracts new viewers, some of them educationally alienated, maybe I should be less surprised that those also find their way over here in the times of google....
     
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  11. ktu

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    Give it a rest, will you !!

    Neither of you is going to convince the other one to change his opinion, so this argument is utterly pointless.
     
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  12. william

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    LOL
    You are right. I'll stop there.
    I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
     
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  13. ktu

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    Yeah we will save it until the next F1 driver says Hamilton is great
     
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    Winning the championship wasn’t an achievement for Nico?.... what the **** will you say next in your quest to try to swing everyone Elton’s way? ****ing biggest lot of bollocks I’ve ever heard, and that’s saying something the way you Elton fans bang on
     
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    And what about the ones like Max who say he isn’t.... gonna argue with him, even though he is a current f1 driver?
     
  16. ktu

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    I don't recall Max saying Ham is not a F1 great, post the link.
     
  17. ATBNM3

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    Max Verstappen is all you've got lol! Oh yeah great example...
     
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    Give it up, you bore me
     
  19. ktu

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    Likewise
     
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  20. P.Singhof

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    Why am I not surprised that the current F1 drivers opinion does not count all of the sudden :rolleyes:
     
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  21. ATBNM3

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    1 current F1 driver who's currently trying to prove himself to be the best lol! I'm not going to re-list all the drivers who think he's one of if not the best.
     
  22. ktu

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    For the record, there is no evidence of Max saying if Ham is a all time great or not.... .ok carry on
     
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  23. P.Singhof

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    Max was asked what the differece is between Lewis and the rest... his reply: "The car"...
    When you say that he is mentioning this out of own interest then you should ask yourself why Alonso praises a guy he could not beat in points in his rookie year ;)
    F1 drivers opinions are only good as long as they suit your "point" :rolleyes:
     
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  24. SimCity3

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    Berger now drinks more than when he was racing.
     
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  25. ktu

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    #175 ktu, Apr 26, 2019
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    I don't have a problem with Max's point, he is talking specifally about last years hybrid car, not his whole career. Thats all he commented on. So what he said does not conflict with other drivers saying he is a great. In fact i don't think he was asked at all if Ham is a great or not. If i remember the article correctly, he choose 2 other current top F1 drivers and said they can win in the Merc. Some would say the same that Hakkinen or Villeneuve could've won in the Ferrari. I'll wait to see his thoughts on Hams whole career
     
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