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Leclerc "Having A Negative Effect" On Ferrari

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  1. aaronrgonz

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  2. william

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    Villeneuve should Wind his neck in !!!

    Charles Leclerc is the ONLY positive thing at Ferrari this year so far.
     
  3. anunakki

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    Sounds like grade school politics
     
  4. TheMayor

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    My thoughts are....

    I never pay attention to what this guy ever says, ever.
     
  5. Canuck550

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    IMHO He is right and it did happen more publicly with Merc a couple years ago.
    Ferrari doesn't know how to handle the situation properly, crystal clear to me and races do prove this with the strategy
    Jacques can be arrogant and a meat head, lol, however for once he is right IMHO
     
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  6. blkfxstc

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    Please tell me Ferrari didn't know this going in (LOL)...…. everyone knew LEC would challenge VET. If they wanted a number 2 driver, they should have stuck with KIMI.
     
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  7. NeuroBeaker

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    Ferrari hired LeClerc because they hoped he would be fast, more aggressive, would push Vettel, and would compete for more points from the Mercedes drivers. The fact that he is fast and not a distant #2 is a good thing. Ferrari, I think, are also looking further ahead to a time when Vettel might not be there - LeClerc is the future and eventually will be the #1 driver.

    What does Villeneuve want LeClerc to do? Be slower? Of course LeClerc didn't get pounded for his qualifying mistake in Baku: he took responsibility for it with humility, and presently has the learning space all newish F1 drivers get. It's different when a driver with multiple world championships makes a big mistake because we expect them to have the talent and experience to avoid them.

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  8. Isobel

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    I think JV is 100% correct. Hamilton has an inferior teammate and will walk away with the series once again. He’s not remotely worried about Bottas, he can cover him at will. Vettel has a fight on his hands as does Leclerc. Their points and risks will come with a toll, it already has, they’re both overdriving with the mindset they need to steal every point they can get. Senna knew this ages ago when he vetoed Warwick at Lotus, the team couldn’t handle a number one and an equally quick no.2. JV isn’t advising Leclerc doesn’t deserve the ride, he’s stating the obvious from what we’ve seen already, if Ferrari had ‘the car’ this year, it was bad timing to make a move, Leclerc could have stayed at Alfa this season with a promise he’d have the seat in 2020, thereby keeping him on ice.
     
  9. LVP488

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    Ferrari does not seem to have the car anyway :(
     
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  10. crinoid

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    His hair choices and music display his credibility. Lolol

    I think his point really is that as many of us have said here that Ferrari don’t know how to manage two cars.
     
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  11. william

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    From a spectator's point of view, it's good if Leclerc starts to challenge team orders and attack Vettel, the same at Mercedes between Hamilton and Botas.
    That's what we need to spice up the show, I think. For years F1 followers have complained of races without action.
    If Max can join, we would have 5 cars and drivers in the mix, bringing a few overtakes, some duels on the track, etc ... all for the good of the sport.

    Of course, if one is only interested in Vettel, that's different; in that case, Leclerc is the fly in the ointment.
     
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  12. P.Singhof

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    If one looks for the years to come the move from Leclerc to Ferrari was good as Leclerc can mature at Ferrari rather than an inferior team learning to win races.
    If one looks at this year alone it was too early... ok Ferrari will not win the WDC or WCC anyway as it looks like but Seb and Charles taking points away from each other will never be able to beat the Mercedes. If the car was good enough it might have ended like McLaren in 2007 when Kimi "stole " the title because Lewis and Fernando were more busy with each other than the rest. Two equal drivers only works when the car is superior, if Nico was still at Mercedes instead of Bottas Ferrari might have won one of the last two years but with Mercedes concentrating on one driver they did not. This year a battle Bottas/Hamilton might work because by now the Mercedes is unbeatable (unlike the last two years)

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  13. johnireland

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    Leclerc deserves the seat and he deserves to fight Vettel tooth and nail. All Ferrari has to do is give him a fast and reliable car and then get out of his way. At this point in the season...if Ferrari scores wins it will be with Leclerc and because of him.
     
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  14. BartonWorkman

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    What Ferrari needs to do right now is pull their heads out of their asses and stop with trying to outwit
    Mercedes-Benz on tire strategies. Rather than these cockamamy schemes where Leclerc and Vettel
    seem to be constantly on the wrong tires at the wrong times, why not try to emulate M-B and beat them
    on pace?

    Clearly, Leclerc is on the up and a future World Champion whereas Vettel seems to have lost the plot.
    But, for sure, neither of them are going to be successful unless or until the braintrust on the pit wall
    stops with the nonsense and gets with the program.

    BHW
     
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  15. Bas

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    Which begs the question, if Ferrari really just wanted another #2 for Vettel why bother swapping Kimi for Leclerc at all? They had him under a contract anyways so couldn't have been stolen by another team unless for a huge sum
     
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    Seb has done nothing for Ferrari. Seb is the unbalanced part of the team. Have I mentioned Seb Sucks lately? SS.
     
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  18. John_K_348

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    Seb is protecting the car. He is also protecting himself after the stupid mistakes last year. Charles fouled up on the medium tire. Everything after that was the cascade effect. Seb still managed P3. If they had been more aggressive like W. Buxton wrote on Formula1.com, maybe they could have had a shot? The problem is, the car still has issues with set up. I really think SF made a design choice to go for low drag aero this year. What happened to the power? With all the power, there should have been room for downforce, no? I used to think SF split up Seb and Kimi to go with a junior/senior line up in both teams. The lack of testing and rule enforcement in the power unit area has stymied SF chances of pushing in that area and maintaining pace. This last point is kinda simplistic, but look at the triangular intake scoop. Maybe it could be bigger for more cool air under the engine cover to allow harder running? Was this a silly sacrifice for low drag that isn't doing any good? Was SF backed up in quali with tires, being forced to use the mediums when LeClerc crashed? Why did they use the mediums? Was it to wait for MB to pit and try to go long in the race? For the longest straight of the year, that was really disappointing for any real passing up front.
     
  19. Bas

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    They took the Bahrain GP control electronics off and switched to an old unit (last years?) as far as I know. I can only assume the part is unreliable. If that's the key to their speed they better fix it quick....

    The Barcelona update HAS to work and they better fix the engine Canada latest. They can get away with Monaco.
     
  20. John_K_348

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    Aha, that could be it.
     
  21. johnk...

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    The thing about Ferrari is that it's feast or famine. After Scheckter in '79. nothing until the Schu's run, and Kimi in '07. We are only 12 years since Kimi won. So don't expect much until 2028. :(

    Oh, and have I mentioned, oh never mind.
     
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  22. Oengus

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    Let the kid loose
     
  23. Robb

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    It’s not leclerc.

    It’s the managers and strategists...

    Team orders suck. Get in and hammer down.

    Robb
     
  24. Oengus

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    One dude in charge isn’t good for ferrari
     
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  25. bmwracer

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    Ferrari got themselves a hot young shoe and have no idea how to manage him . When they get out of their coma and figure out what they really want to do , maybe the team has a chance to score some wins . Till then , mass confusion .
     
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