Swap 430 manual for 458?

I would absolutely not swap my manual for a paddle shifter- but thats just me, part of owning a car like this is the engagement with those 3 pedals.

 

Me neither.

That's why when choosing what to do about this conundrum I opted to compliment my gated Ferrari with something with dual clutch and high hp. That car ended up being a McLaren after I drove one and was highly impressed at how light and agile it felt.

My gated Ferrari is a keeper.

 

OP. I’ve owned both. They’re both incredible cars.

The 458 is a piece of art. Blistering performance. A supercar in every sense of the word. I’d never say anything against it (well the accelerator pedal sensitivity gets tiresome in traffic). It’s the most beautiful car imaginable, IMO. The stunning blonde that walks into the party and everyone stops to stare...

I sold the 458. Was very sad to see it go. Watched that gorgeous ass disappear, the blonde ponytail swishing in the sunlight...

But I kept my 430 gated coupe. It’s all of the above. But so so much more engaging. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I won’t sell it. Ever.

Like a brunette - a real keeper. I can’t keep my hands off it. Every time I slip into her and pump through those gears, its like my first time ever. Over and over and over again.


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You should consider a second career writing for Harlequin romance.....a very impressive description above

 

Wow. A 1960s description for 21st century cars! But I agree 100 per cent with the sentiment. I have pondered swapping my gated 430 for a 458 and decided against it.

But for fairness it might be interesting to post this question on the 458 board.

 

Lol, love it!!


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Feel free to pimp it to the 458 forum - they need some lovin’ over there!


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You can drive a 458 on track w some different outfits.. might help your decision,

I suggest they are different cars.... only share the f badge.

Ideally own both.

 

Personally, I would stick with the stick in this case, not just because it's a manual but because it is more unique. 458 is great, but they are pretty common. Also, if you want to go modern, I'd rather do a 488, which is a ton faster.

 

I love my Apple Watch, it tells me when I have a meeting, what the weather will be like, etc., but I harbor no illusions that it will serve any useful function beyond a paperweight in a decade. My analog watches will still be ticking along as dutifully as the day they were made.

You can and should keep a manual 360 or 430 forever. Buy amazing modern cars like the 458 to compliment the older ones, not replace them.

 

How about a Scud or a 991.2 GT3?

 

Every time I see a 458 going down the road, I can't stop thinking about it for a week. I absolutely love the look and performance of that car! However, a hard prerequisite of car ownership for me is that when I put my foot on the brake, the car actually stops.

 

i would save up to buy the 458 in additional to the manual f430. there's a lot of 458 around and u can always buy one later

 

Several 458/488 owners have experienced complete brake failure at speed. Others have had their brakes completely lock up on them (typically when stationary after a restart). People have died from this. Lots of information in the 458/488/F8 section.

 

Any more detail on the source of failure? Leak? Seal? Master cyl? Abs unit? Elec module? That’s a hefty claim to make.

 

Ahhhhhh hopefully this is not an issue on the 430. My drives get a bit .... spirited!!!


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Scary!!!


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Your F430 manual will be worth more than a 458 in about a year. 458's are continuing to naturally depreciate, while 430's seem to have bottomed out. Don't sell that car, or you will regret it when the first manual F430 sells for north of $200k.

I've been watching the used car values in the Porsche world, since they didn't make the mistake (IMHO) of eliminating the pure manual gearbox, and the manuals seem to carry a premium of almost 10% over their PDK counterparts.

When I bought my F430, if I had been able to find a manual, I would have jumped on it. I just couldn't find one.

Moreover, I would have overlooked many of the flaws or issues that might or might not have come up in a PPI, just to have the manual.

I genuinely think that the manual F430 is about to go up in value exponentially.

 

SoftwareDrone - can you cite your sources links etc. You May be right in what you say, but you’ve been quiet on supplying the data.

Thanks.


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In a heartbeat......The 458 is twice the car IMHO

 

Just visited this thread after a long time. Just browse the 458 section.

 

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/458-brake-failure.556982/

 

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/avh-failure-resulting-in-locked-brakes.553009/