NEW V8 MID ENGINED MODEL (BIG BROTHER)

I don t know car s passion was just an HP number s question...

 

Agreed. That’s why I am really looking forward to that system.

Unfortunately we still don’t know if it will be featured in the BB.

 

I hope so. The whole system is quite revolutionary and very fascinating.

 

I'm predicting starting prices of $485K, optioned well at $575K.

 

UK dealers have already indicated around £500 so it will be much higher in Dollars


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600k euro well optioned (not dealer voice)

The original idea for price level was 800k (October) but then they decided for 600k (March)

 

1000 cv = 986 hp. The current F154 turbo V8 is 710 hp so that leaves 276 hp for three electric motors assuming one at each front wheel and one LaF style in the back (which was 160 hp and and 187 hp on the FXX-K). All the electric motors, electronics, cabling and batteries would seem to be a weight concern over the 488 variants. Maybe new modular chassis gives some back or its another electric configuration.

 

Very wise decision

 

I guessed 400 k euro + 22% IVA so 488 K euro base price: not far, then real base price should be 50 k euro more, 538 K euro. Thank you for sharing that price: your source is Always very reliable, so the price will be that.

I say no electric turbocharger: I think (and I was told) it will be the actual V8 TT just with hybrid module.

I was told (by a well prepared witness that had the permission to give a look inside) that there is a FUV mule travelling here around, with an hybrid engine.

In the future we will see a lot of hybrid V6 engine as Ferrari will stop the V6 (and V8) production for Maserati so there will be the enormous actual Building of the V6 engines that will switch to Ferrari V6 engine production (that won't have the Chrysler Pentastar crankcase anymore). Ferrari F8/488 Pista successor will have it, as well as the Portofino/Dino and FUV.

This means Ferrari will cross the 10k units production as soon as the V6 will be available and they will have to reduce a lot the emissions due to the passage to a "big producer" status from the actual "small producer".

ciao

 

OK！ thank you！

 

Not sure about the weight, but the 918 was 1800kg and it is a great car to interact with !


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Seems amateurish to me ..
Retail price is key factor for the whole project and they decided to cut price by 200 K€ ?

 

Interesting - EU regulations for passenger cars. https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/transport/vehicles/cars_de


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For Ferrari: Manufacturers responsible for between 10 000 and 300 000 cars registered per year (“niche” manufacturers) can apply for a derogation target for the years 2012-2019 equal to a 25% reduction from their 2007 average emissions, and a derogation target from 2020 on of a 45% reduction from the 2007 level.


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weight increase should be around 180-200 kg (400-450 lbs) more than the F8 weight.

 

The FUV has already been spotted in recent times, so what you say is correct. Mule looks like a wider Lusso with a higher ride height and a reworked rear. Too bad about the e-turbo.

PS: Is there anything you know (and can say) about the name? English, italian, number + name? Grazie.

 

I would expect/hope that Ferrari could extract closer to 800hp from the V8, especially if they don’t have to worry about turbo lag (electric motors will provide torque fill).

 

Crossing 10k units only means they’ll be too many depreciating Ferrari’s and doesn't really effect Ferrari’s emissions because as all the exceptions for a small producer are going away and their will be no exceptions for emissions no matter how few cars you build by 2028 and before that euro 7 kicks in 2023.

 

Actually 1000 CV means 1000 metric horsepower (HP in English or PS in German). Both the UK and the US need to get over the silly imperial BHP (which until 1959 was not even exactly the same between the 2 countries as the imperial and the american foot were slightly different, thus altering the equation that calculates power based on torque multiplied by RPM).

Highly unlikely. Most probably a 750 CV V8 and a 250 CV electric motor, both powering the rear wheels.

 

Yes, it does.

No.

ciao

 

No its not but its a dam good starting point

 

So 1000 CV = 896 HP. Sorry that a lifetime experience in US requires a translation in order to be able to relate and compare. Same silly thing with words.


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1000cv = 986bhp

What about torque? 1000Nm (+230 over Pista/F8)? Or more?

 

Not really. 1000 CV (Italian and French)/(metric) HP (English)/PS (German) is 986 Imperial BHP. At the end of the day, does it make any difference whether it is 1000 or 980something? I am confident that the actual CV rating won't be exactly 1000 either.

 

Don’t mean to be pedantic but I don’t understand your point. There is a given power X. In terms of CV it is 1,000. In terms of US HP it is 986. The actual power is unchanged. People like me from the US cannot relate to CV numbers so we convert the number to HP. That is what makes the difference.

If I tell you an area is so many acres or sections, you will likely need to translate to your language or convert it to something you can relate to. That’s all this is.

Of course the actual power does not change just like a rose by any other name is still a rose.


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