430 Bought a F430 with a false CPO checklist

you should name the dealership so others are aware and can hopefully avoid similar problems.
i did this with an indie shop in NY that screwed me and my intent was to alert others about their shoddy work.
hopefully I saved someone else from going through what I had to endure.

 

I’m sorry you had this happen.

I jus traded my California in to my dealer. They serviced and I disclosed all the faults I had - upholstery and trim pieces only. They mentioned that they had a bunch of 430s in recently traded and that they all had issues. All from established clients who regularly serviced.

Things like small oil leaks that don’t bother the owner as they are the same year to year ......

Now a CPO checklist is another story.

Anyway the manager told me they were putting 5k on average their cost I to nearly all of them.

Good luck with whichever way you go. More,likely to get satisfaction without litigation than with it in most cases.

 

I think I see the problem. Your labor quotes are in Venezuelan Bolivar.
$7080 for valve cover gasket replacement labor!

 

With regard to leaks,

the amount is very critical,

there is always seal seeping
and could be some seal weeping
and could be a leak

these are all defined by the number of drips per hour into a dish, an F1 actuator will have a seep and possibly a weep and still be fine for years and years.

How much liquid is it loosing per day, per week?

 

Those estimates are higher than giraffe genitalia!!! I can tell you that a water pump replacement is no where NEAR that cost at Ferrari of Atlanta, as well as all of the other estimates. This is clearly meant to bilk you out of your money.

 

Speak to the FNA rep for that area, the owner or GM of the selling dealer, and ask for a resolution. Similar thing happened to me and the selling dealer ended up cutting me a check.

 

There is a lot you can do, but you should speak with an attorney who is a specialist. I'm not one. From your post it sounds like the vehicle was misrepresented, in which case it is almost definitely in the dealer's interest to work with you. Just because you bought a car "as-is" does not except the seller from committing fraud. If the dealership issued you the CPO report directly as a way of certifying the vehicle's condition, the consequences can be very significant for the selling dealer. A dealership is held to certain standards as it is in the business of automobile sales. Feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk about it.

Re: rough, you meant to say that there was vibration while driving. That is typical of a balancing / wheel issue. Running rough means that the drivetrain (typically engine) is not operating smoothly.

 

Sorry to hear this happen to you.

I scanned really quickly on the estimates provided to you to get your car back in tip top shape and simply put - go someplace else see an honest dealer as they are really taking advantage of you.

One stood out right away. An Annual Service at the dealer ship should be around $1,000.00. That's how much I pay at Ferrari of Seattle.
The dealership you went to quoted you $4,500.00. Absolutely ridiculous.

Take your car to another dealership or a reputable indi mechanic for a 2nd opinion.

As far as the selling dealer, it appears they are dishonest. Its up to you on how you would like to approach it as we are all different.
I would negotiate with them on a credit, if not, yes, seek legal action if you think you have a solid case.

Dan

 

You are most welcome.

Let me know if you want to see what dealership usually charges and I can eMail you the complete service history of my 2006 F430 Spider.
Most of those issues identified on your car have been addressed on my car by the previous owner.

Dan

 

Life would be so much better, if there weren't unscrupulous jerks. Tamahal here is what I suggest you do:

1) Get an attorney who specializes in exotics and pay him to write a letter to these jerks. That might move the wheel.
2) Find a reputable independent shop and have them do the work. I gave up on Ferrari of Silicon Valley, after the quoted $20,000+ for : 1) clutch, 2)Fly wheel, 3) battery 4) oil change. I got the same work and more done at an independent shop for about $9,000.

Another lesson in this unfortunate situation is : Hire a knowledgeable person to examine the car. The few thousands spent is well wort it.

Keep us posted and good luck.

 

Likely the dealers are aware that the OP is not mechanically minded in the least (as evidenced by comments above -- this is not a slight, just the way it appears) and find him easy prey. To own these cars without getting ripped off, you need to have an active interest in learning about them and how they work. I'd start lawyering up.

 

It's happens to the best of us.

Im sure each of us can look back and honestly say there were decisions we've made in the past that we that we were not proud of, or we could have done a better job handling a specific situation looking back now. I know I have a few of those........I too have learned the hard way on some things.

Best way forward in my opinion is just like others have already mentioned, take your car to a reputable independent Ferrari mechanic so he can give you an honest and more reasonable quote on what it will take to address all the issues identified. Then negotiate with the selling dealer to either pay for it as it was misrepresented, or at least meet you half way. 50% is better than nothing or a long law costly lawsuit.

FYI, I paid for my car's PPI done by Ferrari of Scottsdale.
Dealer came back with an estimate of $33K to address all the issues.
An Indi mechanic quoted $16K.
I still want the car so I negotiated with the seller to meet me half way. He agreed. His asking price was lowered by $8K.

I did some of the work myself (headers cracked, replaced with Agency Power, brakes, I did the brakes myself, etc.) saved a ton of money compared to OE parts.
Greatest part is pride of workmanship and learning a lot about these cars.

All the best to you. We are here if you need inputs opinions.

Dan

 

I think you got some good advice here. When I bought my last car it arrived with pretty sever dash leather shrinkage. I called the selling dealer and they said 'get an estimate'. I sent them the estimate and the split it with me Done and Done. I am surprised that they aren't willing to discuss it with you but maybe the high estimate is part of why they are gun shy. Either way, good luck getting is resolved.

 

If the vibration is so terrible, how did you miss it on the test drive??

 

3-4 drips is on the high side, but still probably not a "leak"

if its shifting well, I would just drive it.

 

water pump is only thing I see that looks concerning, the rest is normal, its not a new car