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Ferrari SF90 Stradale : picture and news thread

Discussion in 'SF90 Stradale' started by maha, May 29, 2019.

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  1. jac

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    I actually love the looks of this car. I contacted a dealer today to possibly buy the first new Ferrari of my life specifically to my preference. I am hopeful that the new customer initiative is actually in effect. Otherwise there is always a McLaren or another Lamborghini ready to take a check. Fingers crossed I'll let you know. By the way did i say I love this car! Wow. Ps Marcel Massini's posts on this thread are hilarious. Someday I hope to have a car he would check into. Loving new doesn't mean giving up on classics.
     
  2. isot

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    very very nice
     
  3. boogie

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    Side intake so much more integrated and cohesive than with the 488 et al.

    Otherwise there's a lot going on design-wise. I prefer the Battista aesthetically.

    Pininfarina aren't afraid to keep things simple.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. C50

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    I’ve had the exact same thoughts.

    What I have observed in consumer products is that with increasing digitization you have a transition into planned obsolescence in product design and a much more of a disposable quality. I’m not saying disposable as in cheap but disposable as in a finite lifespan, be it from hardware that cannot keep up with the latest software or a manufacturers decision to no longer support earlier iterations or of the reliance on small suppliers for key components that go out of business.

    I have got some more decades of car buying ahead of me so it may be that my opinions will evolve out of necessity but for at least the near future I am not planning on adding any very costly hybrid automobiles to my garage.
     
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  5. ttforcefed

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    people ***** about paying 8,500 for an engine out service every few years on a 355. what kind of commitment will these things have when 40K, 50, k repair bills start popping up? the market is so saturated with number of cars i cant see how things will look rosy in 5 yrs...
     
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  6. tekaefixe

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    Wow that’s super heavy!!
    It could have 3000hp, in a track you would still fell heavy and not agile at all...
     
  7. C50

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    I did car research for a friend who was shopping awhile back (so my numbers may be off and I’m happy to be corrected).

    Used Early Prius model pricing had an odd drop off at about 7 years. Why? My conclusion: battery life expectancy was ~7y. Battery replacement would be >50% of the vehicle purchase price.

    Add a zero or two to the prices for the Ferrari Modifier Calculation. Yeah, that’s gonna hurt. I think the used market will have a second tier develop for cars that have passed their expiration date.

    Add to that the non-modular construction of the digital interface and you have something that cannot be upgraded beyond software.
     
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  8. aobao1993

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    Will SF90 Stradale have a convertible version ?!
     
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  9. BarryK

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    People are just waking up to the Ferrari modifier calculation for the LaFerrari. A few early cars are on the market are in need of a new battery, and replacement is apparently over €150k.
     
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  10. red passion

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    Does anyone have pictures of the displayed bare chassis?
     
  11. tekaefixe

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    Yes he is, more than anyone here!
     
  12. ttforcefed

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    makes sense - i paid $21k for a 60 inc plasma tv in 2005 - im very happy holding my pre 2013 ferraris for 10 years and revisiting the plethora of options at massively discounted prices in 2029.
     
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  13. tekaefixe

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    Can someone post pictures of the HUD projecting in the dash window?
     
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  14. Elisesko

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    What do you mean you saw Ferrari's latest supercar driving in the HOV lane into our fine city? Smug ****** with go green bumper sticker too? Oh my. This won't do at all.

    At least there will thumbs up from public opinion now. Well done Ferrari. Super car still not dead yet.
     
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  15. boxerman

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    Lest face it Ferrari has been loosing out to the Mclaren 720 on everything besides looks. 1000hp has been the new goal for a while, and for China and europe hybrid is the way to go. Plus it never made sense that the Fe ferrarris were faster than the theoreticaly more dynamic ME ones.

    The design of this car could be a lotus/corvette pastiche, but besides the 458 modern ferraris have mostly not been lookers..

    So now ferrari has its new performance halo car. Its inetresting that nearly everybody here is focussed on 0-60 which for a race car, or race car inspired car is irrelevant. This car is a really havy car, which by defnition can never be great on track past 4 laps, in fact ferrari iself says batteries get dpeleted on treack.

    It's a hey look at me vanity car, with unuseable road performance, which is what 99% of ferraris are about these days.

    Now for the positive, maybe Ferrari is learnign from porche and Mclaren, where one body/tub can be spun into multiple different models, with multiple appeals. Porche with the GT3 through every iteration of 911to the turbo and even sharing major bits with the cayman. Mclaren has spun their tub and same motor into how many models from 200k-400k.

    So we have a new ferrari platform that may comprise multiple me models with different featuresd an styling. Looking at the poisitive, all that effort at weight saving to try negate the battery and electric motor wieight can pay huge dividends if there is a non hybrid TTv6. built of that platform, the ttv6 itself will weigh less than the ttv8.

    So possibly we may see a sub 3000lbs wet, 600+hp TTv6 me car, and being a v6 it can be priced less, I think thats the ferrari a number of us may prefer..

    Of course Ferrari may just be all hybrid now regardless of me model, in which case for anyone who really excercises their car, they will all be heavy and suck beyond having great magazine metrics.

    my bet is ferrari is building a range of me cars off one platform and while they may be related they they wont all be hybrid or heavy

    As to the tech aging, yes for sure, and used ferrari prices for 10yo models will be like other cars, but hey theyre a public company now and its all about sales and profits.

    But this car, for many buyers and markets, for sure it will sell out for a few years.

    If you want classic italian supercar, that can also work on track, its called the hurrucan performante.
     
  16. Dolcevita

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    Looks great in one color. I typically like the black roof look, but for some reason the mono color works better on this car. It's probably because the body is somewhat "busy" and the one color reduces the noise.
     
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  17. markcs

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    All this extra weight
    Have the brakes been upgraded??
     
  18. TomLikesCars

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  19. CeroEspada

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  20. C50

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    Amazing w the plasma
    My sister had similar and ultimately it gave up the ghost.
    When’s the last time anyone shopped the vintage computer store to by an 80s era mainframe?
     
  21. junc

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    The hybrid system adds a lot of weight with the batteries so they had little choice. They could have used a carbon chassis to help I guess but chose not to probably for cost reasons.
     
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  22. CeroEspada

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    I never realized the batteries made it that much heavier. Jeez. 300kg seems like too much of a sacrifice for minimal gains.

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  23. icemangr04

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    If I am not mistaken I haven't seen on the tech specs the torque from the electric motors. Engine torque is mentioned at 800NM and If I read correctly it all comes from the V8. Shouldn't it be a torque figure for the electric motors? For example Porsche claimed 1280 NM of torque for the 918 with 540 NM coming from the V8 and the rest from the electric motor.
     
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  24. boxerman

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    As others have said, hybrid system plus batteries are like 700-1000lbs. Given that most ferrari buyers want bragging rights(0-60 and 1 quick lap)) and in your face styling, the extra weight is an irrlevancy.

    Maybe we'll get lucky and theyll make a drivers car off this platform too.
     
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  25. Makuono

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    The Battista is beautiful.

    However, we must remember that the SF90 still has a petrol V8 engine (lets celebrate it while we can!!!), so the need for air inlets and outlets is very different.

    I guess its difficult to have the best at everything.
     
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