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Hamilton has won 51.7% of his races in the past five years.

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  1. P.Singhof

    P.Singhof F1 Rookie

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    Yes, you guys might be sensational, but that does not mean of great quality ;)
     
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  2. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    I personally think its bad for for the sport. One guy wins 50 % of all the events for 5 years? That's pretty boring.

    I don't have a problem with Hamilton winning. But 51% is too much. Give the guy some competition already!

    The only excitement we have left for the rest of the season is to find out if anyone will beat him this year, and how it happens. Its been a foregone conclusion from the 4rd race this year that Hamilton and Mercedes would win their titles.

    What's the point of watching?
     
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  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I think it's the same in many sports. I don't follow the Olympics, for example, but the people around me could always predict who would get the medals in the main athletic events. I never knew it was that predictable. Other people also tell me that it's the same for some ball sports, where some clubs absolutely dominate their national league and het all the trophies. So that problem of sports being too repetitive and boring maybe the same all over, I don't know. People go to matches to wear regalias, meet like-minded folk, have beers and socialise mostly. What happens on the pitch is always the same, I am told.
     
  4. cairns

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    I'm sure he said that when Schumacher was winning too.

    Not.
     
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  5. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Schumacher's domination was not like this. Hamilton will win the title with like 5 races left.
     
  6. fer312t

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    At times it certainly was...Schumacher won 12 or the opening 13 races in 2004 for instance. You're potentially able clinch it earlier now though given that race wins are more valuable (points wise) compared to mid-2000s...
     
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  7. daytona355

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    While Schumacher was winning, teams were at least able to develop the cars. We had actual races, with ferrari, Williams, McLaren and the like all challenging at times. Ferrari would be the quickest, then someone would overtake them, and they’d have to fight back, then someone else would make a step. It was rarely a foregone conclusion. Nowadays, pretty much all of us could predict five out the the top six finishing order, with the only variable being a mechanical issue, or bad qualy session like Seb’s. Having one team with an absolute half second advantage and no real way of clawing it back under the regulations with development and testing neutralises the racing and becomes a procession
     
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  8. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes, one year. Not 5

    And people complained about that year being a bore.
     
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  9. BartonWorkman

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    I can remember, because it wasn't that long ago, when Nigel Mansell utterly dominated the 1992 F1
    season for Williams. He had the World Championship wrapped up by the Hungarian Grand Prix
    with a full third of the season left on the calendar and the drivers in his wake including Patrese,
    Senna and Schumacher scrapped over second place.

    I can remember the complaint at the time that Mansell wasn't a worthy champion because he played
    golf, he was boring and his wife wasn't good looking enough. Anyone else remember that?

    I can remember the McLaren run of domination, because it wasn't so long ago, where Prost and
    Lauda won 12 of the 16 races in the 1984 season. Then McLaren backed this up in 1985, 1986,
    1988 (when Prost and Senna won 15 of the 16 races) and 1989 when McLaren cars took 10 of
    16 races.

    I can remember the complaint at the time that Senna and Prost didn't smile enough and therefore
    they were somehow lacking. Anyone else remember that?

    I can remember the run Scuderia Ferrari had with Schumacher, utterly dominating the championship
    from 2000 to 2004 and Ferrari's dominance atop the standings was celebrated as Schumacher brought
    passion back to Formula One even though the rules makers tried everything in their power to try and
    knock Ferrari off the top. Anyone else remember that?

    To now where we see young Hamilton and Mercedes-Benz dominating in such a fashion that no one seems
    to have a clue how to challenge them. And people complain that Hamilton has got tattoos, says what's on
    his mind, isn't cultured enough, didn't come from a poor enough background and (let's face it) he has the
    nerve to be black all to try to knock him down a peg and all he keeps doing is winning.

    Hunker down gentlemen, by the time Hamilton is done with F1, he will own every record by a large margin.
    He will be remembered as the greatest of all time not only due to his talent but having enough foresight to jump
    from McLaren's sinking ship just as Mercedes-Benz was on the up. And, heaven knows, he's smart enough
    to laugh at any offer Ferrari may throw his way.

    BHW
     
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  10. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    ^ I remember when Hamilton jumped to Merc from McLaren EVERYONE on Fchat thought it was the end of his career and one of the dumbest moves ever.
     
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  11. GuyIncognito

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    The Patriots have won 60% of the Super Bowls for the past 5 years (and went to 80% of them), is that a problem?

    I don't mind a dynasty going on a tear. certainly I didn't mind Schumacher's dominance with Ferrari ;)
     
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  12. 05011994

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    There is very little point in watching, F1 has been on a downward spiral since the turbo-hybrid era, even the Sky announcers and Autosport are having a difficult time pretending this is compelling and worth watching. The product quite simply is not very good for a number of reasons.
     
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  13. DeSoto

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    I get that teams have winning streaks. But Mercedes is using politics to make their life easier.

    It's their job, I can't blame them, but I just can't understand why FIA and Liberty allow that, knowing that it's destroying their business. Maybe they're trying to weaken the other teams to force them to sign the new regulations and money deals, and make Mercedes return the favours later.
     
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  14. subirg

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    And in one simple opening post, the pin has been pulled. FChat implodes and the internet goes down. Hahahaaaa!

    Regardless of whether you like him or not, Ham has done very well out of F1. He's a great driver and he's managed to generate great results in his career to date. The stats don't lie. Obviously, being in Merc is the trump card that beats all others and let's be honest, Vettel would likely have achieved similar stats in the Merc if he and Ham had swapped seats - and could therefore have been what, an 8xWDC by now?? Both those guys are top tier drivers, although Vettel's star is starting to dim in comparison as is plain to see...
     
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  15. Bas

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    People still do...and now use it as an excuse that ''well Schumacher did it so...''

    This is 5 years in the making of 1 team doing all the winning, no competition.

    Schumacher faced heavy competition in 2000, 2001 and 2003. Only 2002 and 2004 was it a walkover. They where then paid an enormous sum to accept a rule change.

    Vettel was standout in 2011 and 2013. People fail to see how he destroyed the competition. Yes obviously he had a great car but he faced zero competition. Webber only got the 1 (one!) win in those 2 seasons combined. And like I said earlier...FIA did their very best to clamp down on Red Bull whenever they could. Taking away their toys, sudden strict regulations with the intention to hurt them....FIA seems to actively encourage the punish of Mercedes' rivals. I'm not saying with the FIA did against Red Bull was fine, but what they're doing now is beyond me.
     
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  16. Bas

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    Yep. But somehow the Elton fanboys think it's right to say Vettel sucks because he hasn't won a title in the last few years. When pointed out that Vettel doesn't enjoy the best car, they say it's up to him....yet when pointing out to them that Hamilton didn't win a title either before it, they say that doesn't count?! Double standard of measurements.
     
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  17. william

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    But this has happened in the past.

    It's Bernie that came out with the idea that the title should be fought up to the last GP.

    F1 followers in the past accepted that the championship could be won before that.

    Of course Bernie had his commercial interests to protect.
     
  18. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No, Vettel sucks because he keeps making beginers' mistakes that don't befit a quadruple WDC !!
    I would forgive Max or Leclerc, but not Vettel.
    His racecraft has regressed instead of improving; the opposite of Hamilton in fact.
     
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  19. ktu

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    Let's not put out false information. Mercedes had competion 2017&18, trailed in the championship both years.
     
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  20. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ


    The assumption is he had race-craft?? It is clear to me he lacks it and better emotion controlled response to pressure.
     
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  21. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    And the team and Vettel failed. Two titles gone. The domination has caveats so it has not just been easy without competition for Mercedes.
     
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  22. william

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    Excellent post !!

    That put the present moans into perspective.

    The best way is to Watch F1 with an open mind, and not be partisan.
     
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  23. cairns

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    That may be the wisest thing I've ever read on here. Bravo.
     
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  24. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Oh my- logical progress and counsel on this site. We are doomed lol :)
     
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  25. classic308

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    During this period how many races on a percentage basis did MB win?
     
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