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“High” mileage F12?

Discussion in 'F12/812' started by Ferrariski, Mar 3, 2019.

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  1. Timonous

    Timonous Rookie

    Oct 28, 2017
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    Estonia
    My f12 had 60000km about 38000 miles when I sold it. Any issues what so ever.
     
  2. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
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    Jun 23, 2012
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    I can't believe that the Ferrari market and the demands of the Ferrari buyers has gotten so ridiculous, that people are asking if 27 000 miles is a high mileage...
     
  3. Texascarguy

    Texascarguy Rookie

    Apr 14, 2019
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    Thomas Tyrrell
    I think the max retail price is 175. Everyone thinks they’ll keep the car forever but you will want another. Super small market with that mileage. It’s gotta be a deal
     
  4. njcycleguy

    njcycleguy Formula Junior
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    Dec 27, 2008
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    It's always been that way in the Ferrari world. Anything north of 20k miles is considered high. And it's not about whether the car can take it or not. It's simply supply and demand.

    Ferrari is producing more cars each year, which means the market is softening and their are more lower mileage cars available for buyers to choose. I just went thru this exercise with my 23k mile FF. Although the car was in better condition than any used FF I've ever seen (including the interior which was literally like new), the mileage made people choose lower mileage cars for slightly more money. The dealer that bought my car got an absolute steal and was blown away when he saw the condition of the car. It's a shame it didn't go to a buyer here on F-chat.
     
  5. TrojanFan

    TrojanFan F1 Rookie
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    Nov 17, 2008
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    Its all a pricing issue as others have said. The market will pay more for lower mileage cars. The F12 is solid and will last much more the 27K. Purchase price should be according to condition and mileage is just one of the factors to consider. My 612 has 43K on her now. Certainly not "worthless" but one in the same physical condition but with less miles will sell for more. An F12 is not an "investment" car over the long run so do your homework on pricing and buy what you will enjoy driving.
     
  6. seateddime

    seateddime Karting

    Apr 9, 2008
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    Mine has under 2,000 on it and when I tried to trade it in they wanted to give me $215,000. It’s still in my garage.

    Don’t buy a 27,000 car IMHO.
     
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  7. ginoBBi512

    ginoBBi512 F1 Rookie
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    Im not sure what to say about that 27000 miles on a Ferrari which is supposed to be a flagship machine for the factory ? My 328 has 102,000 miles and it still pulls like new So my response would be R U KIDDING ? or are you really serious ? If you cant beat the piss out of this car for 200,000 miles without something going wrong then there really is something wrong at Ferrari just my 2 bits opinion\

    PS maybe thats why Ferrari are getting their teeth kicked in at F1

    Thank you
     
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  8. 3POINT8

    3POINT8 F1 Rookie
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    i'd say these cars are so well built that mileage is just a number. i'd be more concerned with the condition of the interior/exterior. and at 27000 miles you're not going to think twice about driving it. imagine if you paid $50k more for a car with 2,000 miles and you were too scared to drive it? how fun would that be?
     
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  9. WilliamB

    WilliamB Formula Junior

    Feb 1, 2017
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    Well 'Seatedtime', it sounds like you keep your F12 only as eye-candy ... I prefer being out there and enjoy it! In the end, you can't take it with you and it is not an investment car thus will depreciate.
     
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  10. 360Marnix

    360Marnix Formula Junior

    Jan 4, 2017
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    Holland
    It so funny: Porsche drivers are always proud on how many miles their cars have driven. Ferrari drivers are proud when they didn't drove their cars.
     
  11. Solid State

    Solid State F1 Veteran
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    Feb 4, 2014
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    To be more correct, Ferrari BUYERS are more proud to select a care with lower miles. Ferrari owners hate to not drive them for whatever reason. I guess Porsche drivers need something to be proud of so it might as well be high mileage. :)
     
  12. obbob

    obbob Formula Junior

    Aug 14, 2017
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    What's everyone's thoughts on buying a later year F12 with 25K miles?
     
  13. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
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    That it depends on the car's condition, that has nothing to do with the mileage :)
     
  14. AlfistaPortoghese

    AlfistaPortoghese Moderator
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    Mar 18, 2014
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    Mileage alone, imho, tells you nothing. How the previous owner drove the car and how it was maintained tells you much more.

    I’d prefer a properly maintained 27.000 mile F12 than a garage queen, filled with cold starts and/or tracked, with only 2 or 3.000 miles on the odo.

    Buying low mileage cars is extremely overrated, imho. They’re more expensive, and potentially a maintenance bomb in your hands. If you do nothing, don’t drive the car, few if any things can go wrong. Start driving it, as it always should be driven, and it will catch up to you.

    As with most things in life, the sweetspot is somewhere in the middle: not 2.000 miles, nor 80.000. If you really want an extremely low mileage car, why not spec one from the factory to begin with?

    I never disqualify a car based on mileage alone. Optional equipment, color spec, history, PPI are much, much more important.

    The F12 is a wonderful Grand Tourer. By definition, Grand Tourers were made to be driven long distances in extreme comfort. You can’t expect to find low mileage cars forever. And if you do, it means the car was used not in the way and purpose Ferrari manufactured it in the first place. Is that really a plus?

    Buy whatever you like and makes sense to you. My advice? Don’t get caught up on numerical psychological barriers like mileage.

    Kind regards,

    Nuno.
     
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