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Ferrari Speciale vs Pista - feeling/performance/grip?!

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by tekaefixe, Jul 11, 2019.

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  1. TomAZ

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    #51 TomAZ, Jul 12, 2019
    I agree.


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  2. Coincid

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    #52 Coincid, Jul 12, 2019
    My comment is a generalization on suspension differences and it’s effect on handling characteristics. Clearly each track will require specific suspension tweaking to optimize best times.
     
  3. italiafan

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    #53 italiafan, Jul 12, 2019
    Great, let’s hear your brillance...produce a comprehensive thesis of your thoughts..here and now...or shut it.
     
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  4. dustman

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    #54 dustman, Jul 12, 2019
    Having owned a speciale, I surely wouldn’t go backwards and trade the Perf for it!
     
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  5. ipsedixit

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    #55 ipsedixit, Jul 12, 2019
    I'll take the Pista.

    It has a better stereo.
     
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  6. REALZEUS

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    #56 REALZEUS, Jul 13, 2019
    Or shut it? Really?
     
  7. plastique999

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    #57 plastique999, Jul 13, 2019
    I don’t think it’s backwards, it’s sideways


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  8. italiafan

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    #58 italiafan, Jul 13, 2019
    Still waiting....
     
  9. Coincid

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    #59 Coincid, Jul 13, 2019
    You have ignored the fact that most super cars have active, adaptive suspensions which alter suspension firmness to suit road surface condition.
     
  10. tekaefixe

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    #60 tekaefixe, Jul 13, 2019
    I must say I’m impressed on how much you worship everything Ferrari. Another brand could launch a car 10times better in every way and still you would be the Ferrari cheerleader.
    The guy is a damn pilot, if he says the car doesn’t please him as much let it be!
    Being critical is a good thing, if all customers were like you Ferrari cars would be crap, because they would always be perfect.
     
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    #61 dmark1, Jul 13, 2019

    I guess the fact they happen to be better than all the other brands doesn’t enter into
    Your thought process does it?

    And yes I’ve owned Lambos (still do) Porsche’s, etc etc.
     
  12. dustman

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    #62 dustman, Jul 13, 2019
    They aren’t.
     
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  13. Clay512TR

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    #63 Clay512TR, Jul 13, 2019
    They Are!
    Hmmmm...opinions start to show their ugly heads! <g>


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  14. dustman

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    #64 dustman, Jul 14, 2019
    Going thru life oblivious :)
     
  15. Clay512TR

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    #65 Clay512TR, Jul 14, 2019
    I have owned several Porsche automobiles, Lotus, and Aston as well. Never had the desire to own a Lambo but I stay current on the models and specs. And I have been fortunate to own several Ferraris. So I guess I am oblivious...


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  16. tekaefixe

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    #66 tekaefixe, Jul 14, 2019
    Cognitive dissonance is strong here, let me guess you’re also religious....
     
  17. Shadowfax

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    #67 Shadowfax, Jul 14, 2019
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    But you did. Maybe this is why you're so dark on Ferrari now.....only thing that makes any sense.

    Perf will go out backwards vs a spec....and in more ways than one.:)

    Nothing wrong with adding Perf but I certainly wouldn't trade a spec for one.
     
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  18. REALZEUS

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    #68 REALZEUS, Jul 14, 2019
    Not interested in discussing with someone rude and offensive. Will gladly discuss it with other people.
     
  19. REALZEUS

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    #69 REALZEUS, Jul 14, 2019
    Within limits and even then it only alters the dampers' settings, not the spring rates.
     
  20. REALZEUS

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    #70 REALZEUS, Jul 14, 2019
    Your last argument nullifies everything else you 've said. Evolution is what has brought us to this stage and yet people don't seem to like it, preferring cruder solutions. Go figure...
     
  21. tekaefixe

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    #71 tekaefixe, Jul 14, 2019
    What I meant was for you if it’s ferrari is good no matter what, whereas other Ferrari customers criticize and go to other brands if needed. If all customers were like you they wouldn’t change or improve anything because any crap would always be perfect.
     
  22. Coincid

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    #72 Coincid, Jul 14, 2019
    A closed mind does not permit light to enter.
     
  23. REALZEUS

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    #73 REALZEUS, Jul 14, 2019
    I don't know how you got that idea, but you are dead wrong. We are discussing a specific suspension characteristic. Evolution has enabled the suspension to be both supple and control the body effectively. People have different tastes, but some things are measurable.
     
  24. tekaefixe

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    #74 tekaefixe, Jul 14, 2019
    Of course the the suspension is better, the multimatic (option in the SF90 stradale) will soon be standard in all Ferrari’s because it’s so good but that doesn’t mean that Ferrari cars aren’t perfect, far from it.
     
  25. Coincid

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    #75 Coincid, Jul 14, 2019
    You do have a tendency to make emphatic judgements ( i.e, untrue, dead wrong etc). Some characteristics are measurable but the driver reaction to those metrics invariably are subjective.
     
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