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F430 motor mounts are these bad :)

Discussion in '360/430' started by 65ffrcobra, May 16, 2019.

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  1. 65ffrcobra

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    #1 65ffrcobra, May 16, 2019
    Well I was getting some funny shifting and it seemed like there was a lot moving around so I thought I would check my motor mounts. They are cracked and look sacked out but I did not get the satisfaction of seeing them fall apart like other ones on the web?

    ok if they are bad where do I get new ones? eurospares seems to have the best price, 98 euros each. can or should I use the 2006 challenge ones?

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  2. 24000rpm

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    #2 24000rpm, May 16, 2019
    i assume challenge ones are going to put too much stress on everything. i could be wrong
    just put new OEM in there and you are good for another few years
     
  3. 65ffrcobra

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    #3 65ffrcobra, May 16, 2019
    Yeah probably worth it for comfort. did the picture show up?[​IMG][​IMG]
     
  4. 65ffrcobra

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    #4 65ffrcobra, May 16, 2019
    Eurospares has two part numbers for standard 430

    216357 $95 euro
    and
    216357a $79 euro this is an aftermarket pad does anyone have any experience with it? Sure I'd like to save $40 but I really want what is best. Most of the time thats oem but not always
     
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    #5 cfensty, May 16, 2019
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    #6 65ffrcobra, May 16, 2019
    i ordered the original motor mounts and stuff for some fluid changes.
     
  7. whatheheck

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    #7 whatheheck, May 16, 2019
    Yes, mine were that bad too.

    I changed mine recently and went with OE.
    I ordered mine from Eurospares UK.

    And most likely your gearbox bushings are wont out too. Mine is and I will be replacing my gearbox bushing soon. I will post here a DIY once Im done.

    Dan
     
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    #8 65ffrcobra, May 16, 2019
    That gearbox bushing does not look fun, I look forward to the tutorial. Mine looked good, I could not see any cracks.
    these motor mounts are easy, like a 15 min job once the tray is off. I do have it on a 4 post lift though that helps :)
     
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    #9 sierra055, May 17, 2019
    Just be aware that Eurospares don't include the washer insert. On the 430 part diagram, it doesn't look to be included anyway, but on the 360 one it does.
    You could probably reuse the old one, but for me, if I'm going to that trouble (and I did last year) I would replace everything including the mounting bolts (which I did)
     
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    #10 sierra055, May 17, 2019
    Engine mounts were probably the easiest job I've done on my car, including a coolant flush lol.
    I also changed the upper and lower gearbox mounts. Upper was pretty straight forward, but lower was trickier as a press had to be made up by bastardising a socket and some threaded rod
     
  11. whatheheck

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    #11 whatheheck, May 17, 2019
    Mine is an F430 so I only have one gearbox bushing.

    I also bought the Hill Engineering Bushing Removal Tool for easier removal & installation.

    I also already printed the workshop manual instructions so Im ready to go.

    Will share F430 DIY here soon including all the WSM pages and tips and tricks of the trade.

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  12. 65ffrcobra

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    #12 65ffrcobra, May 21, 2019
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    Got these installed today, very nice its very firm back there, shifts great and it got rid of a little rattle I had when i took off from a stop or low rpm acceleration, I guess that was the stops rattling on the mount.

    are these oem mounts? they were wrapped in bubble wrap where everything else came in Ferrari packaging. if they are aftermarket they seem to work fine but I paid for oem ;)

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  13. LorenzoR

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    #13 LorenzoR, Jul 31, 2019
    I just bought the same motor mounts 216357 pictured above from eurospares and they came wrapped in cardboard and bubble wrap. My first thought was are these OEM or aftermarket cuz I specifically ordered OEM. When I emailed him he tells me that they buy a hundred of these at a time so they don't come in the fancy box. Who knows. I'm not looking at it right this second so I don't remember seeing a part number on the mount it self.
     
  14. whatheheck

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    #14 whatheheck, Jul 31, 2019
    Hi Lorenzo,

    I ordered mine from Superformance UK and they are OE (Original Equpment.)
    Part number is 216357.

    I think what Eurospares sell is an after market.
    I did not see any reviews on the one that Eurospares sell on how durable it is so I decided to go OE again and ordered mine from Superformance UK.

    Hope that helps.

    Dan
     
  15. LorenzoR

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    #15 LorenzoR, Jul 31, 2019
    I'm not sure what to do right now. He told me it's OEM and he buys a hundred at a time. Sounds a little odd to me
     
  16. Jgivoo

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    #16 Jgivoo, Jul 31, 2019
    it is quite possible they are OEM. The coolant caps I sell are OEM and bought in bulk from the OEM manufacturer. They came in a big box, none wrapped separately. That is quite possibly the way Eurospares buys the mounts.
     
  17. LorenzoR

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    #17 LorenzoR, Aug 1, 2019
    Can anyone confirm if theres a part number stamped on an OEM mount,,Thanks
     
  18. Ricambi America

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    #18 Ricambi America, Aug 1, 2019
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    They always come to me like this (see below). I'm sure whatever you got is fine and will last at least a few years.

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  19. LorenzoR

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    #19 LorenzoR, Aug 1, 2019
    Thank you Daniel and you're probably right that they will be just fine. I just kind of like to know what I'm getting and it was kind of odd that they are not packaged up. I bought some odds and ends used parts from them so I figured I'd just add that to the order. I should have probably just bought them from you. But oh well
     
  20. whatheheck

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    #20 whatheheck, Aug 1, 2019
    Mine is OE and came wrapped with plastic with Ferrari part number just like the one that Ricambi sells.

    I think the one you got Lorenzo is just fine.

    But if it bothers you that much then return what you got and order OE ones from Ricambi.
    Always remember that you cannot put a price tag on peace of mind.

    So always aim for a quick resolution whenever problem arises. Dont let things bother you too long.

    Dan
     
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