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Interesting my dealer just smiles when I ask. But did say need a F8 to qualify, not a 488. Time will tell however not the fact that ours cars will not have the GPF , because we wont but the fact that VS models have carBon which is a no for me. Frankly speaking why as that's the PISTA. But what if the VS had the 4 liter SF90 engine ? Hum
So if there is a vs version of the f8, and it’s only available to owners of the f8, if you thought depreciation on the 488 was bad, f8 is gonna blow the concept of deprecation to kingdom come!
Yup. There will be a whole new meaning to the saying taking a bath....or swallowing a pill. The biggest problem I foresee now these new Ferrari's are beginning to weigh too much is that the all electric cars coming out which will have same or better straight line performance are going to send these high value cars into a tailspin. You only need to read whats happening with the Taycan and how much that will be sold for. Scary days ahead for resale values. And it's only the beginning.
There's just no way to know. The F8 breaks Ferrari's pattern from the past 20 or so years, so we're in uncharted territory. And even if we were in charted territory, they can always surprise us- that's one of the things that makes Ferrari unique and fun! Its only natural to speculate but I've learned they can decide at almost the last possible moment, so aside from the fun of discussing what if, we should be enjoying our 488, Pista, F8 etc. But for sport, they are in the business of selling dreams in the form of cars, so it's hard to see them passing up the chance to sell another.
I doubt that the VS would have a significantly different engine. Ferrari has generally offered other kinds of tweaks when it comes to the engine of the more special track models. But time will tell. When do you think the VS F8 will be revealed? 2022?
Initially the first criteria to get a Pista was to own a 488 - but there were other possibilities (e.g. owning a Speciale, and then buying a Lusso or whatever). They could do the same for the F8 VS, expecting an even more clever marketing because they've tested extensively with the Pista. How the market will evolve in the coming few years will also influence them; they want to sell as many cars as possible but with the highest possible margin - typically these two goals are in contradiction, so they'll need to adjust the balance permanently.
My dealer said the F8 Speciale will only be offered to those on the same criteria as the Pista. First time F8 buyers will not receive an allocation.
You speak as if it's a given? How reliable can you honestly say the info is? My dealer is maintaining position there won't be one and he's already got my money on Pista so has no need to BS me (at this stage). Either way, not keen on the criteria as the hit on F8 is bound to set new world records.
Hi Angelo - just catching up on this thread. Sorry to dispel your theory on the plates. I think you are referring to the Victoria personalised plates. I got the SF90 plates based on some good intel I read on FChat well before the announcement. Dealer was equally unhappy I got there first! Image Unavailable, Please Login
My dealer has my deposit and I the spec'd F8. He was pertinacious in his certainty that the F8 Speciale will be a reality and the production cycle of the F8 will definitely be less than 3 years. He also advised that I would not be offered an allocation for the F8 Speciale even with my purchase of the F8. All his comments are not self serving in my case. Precisely the opposite. In essence, he is warning me that the F8 will be available only for a short period, the super version of this car will be introduced in the not too distant future and I will not be offered one to purchase.Hardly an inducement to purchase a car that will see its value decline precipitously.
If my dealer is accurate and he has been habitually very vague in the past so I have no reson not to believe him, buyers of the F8 will undoubtedly be the owner of a highly capable car but one that will depreciate at a rate heretofore never previously experienced.
Would have thought the last of the non hybrid status might support F8 prices in the long run? Especially seeing how prices seem to ratcheting up .
This would be the case if it were not for the F8 Speciale. The F8 then becomes the second to last all ICE engine. Not much special about that.
I think most buyers of any new non limited Ferrari are aware of the current climate and will not be surprised about the depreciation. In addition if the car is “capable “ and reliable if you keep the car then there is no depreciation
Exactly. You must be prepared to keep the car for a long time. Unfortunately, my wonderlust impedes me from owning a car for any prolonged period of time, especially with so many new models on the horizon. The F8 will certainly be a great car but not sufficiently special to qualify as a keeper.
Well, it may be the last "budget" car not downsized / hybrid - the real last being the F8 VS, but this one might have an overinflated price with some ready to pay for its collector's value rather than for is intrinsic qualities (which may be just marginally better than those of the F8). OK I'm speculating here, but not on cars, just on guesses
Well done !!!! When the Super fast was announced the SF812 was already at the dealer. F8 gone I do have IMOLA as that was the reported name that was going to be the 599. Oh well maybe in the future Your plates are gonna be worth a pretty penny, again well done.
Well done I missed out on the Western Australia versions, dealer says he didn’t get them either. I did manage to get F8TRIBUTO on WA plates, they hold them at the licensing place here so I have to make do with a letter to display. No intention of buying the car to go with them so plate for sale!
I am not personally too worried about F8 depreciation. I think it will be better than 488, or maybe similar. There won’t be as many of them, it is prettier, in fact very pretty. It has the Pista’s basic engine and similar power and torque. It will drive great and its price is significantly lower than Pista so less distance to fall. It will never be lower than a 488 and it probably won’t be less than a 458 until maybe they are all long-time classics, which will not bother first owners. If a 760hp VS came, for a short run, available to select owners, that would command a premium for a while. All meaning that for at least 18 months F8 should be just fine IMV. Those first-time buyers that everyone keeps on about, the 30% at the end of the line, they may just have a little more of a problem. But that will be a nice test of whether they love Ferrari. A wonderful and exotic car for more dollars depreciation than a Beemer will still seem a fair deal if you want a Ferrari for why Enzo would have wanted you to want a Ferrari.
I am still being told that there will NOT be a special edition F8. Time will tell though and Ferrari being a whore throws everything out the window.
There is no difference between Pista engine and F8. Same internals, same turbos and cooling. Difference in only in the exhaust because of the PF. If anything the engine should be making more engine power (not wheel) than Pista because a car with PF loses 5% power due to constrictions.