New to Ferrari and need advice UK

takeflight · May 31, 2019

Hi guys we are into air-cooled porsches, and think we sort of understand that market. That said my wife and I love the look of the F430 and 458 and know nothing, so browsing and hours of youtube, with our budget which do you think will be more sought after in a few years ?

F430 manual, F430 F1 or the 458

The F430 manual have asking prices considerably higher than the F1 and there are a lot fewer around, however to the younger guys are they into flappy paddles ? hence the 458 with the dual clutch maybe a better long term bet.

I am an old man with a younger petrol head wife , she goes for manuals, were as I lean towards F1.

Can only afford one, so get your crystal balls out and let me know what you think.

Cheers Roy

greyboxer · May 31, 2019

Welcome: they will all depreciate

My sense is the F1 least because the manual is in a bit of a bubble and the 458 has further to fall since its newer but will soon be really old tech

As in so many thread queries here there is such a difference in tech you need to drive both

A348W · May 31, 2019

Hi and welcome!!

If your buying to make money... good luck to you...lottery tickets available at most outlets!!!!

Buy what you like; drive them as they will be very different.

My guess, 458s might yet fall, but they are the last normally aspirated so maybe not as much as we might expect. They are now close to 488 money!?. Last manual will be special and will always command a premium over an F1.

Don’t forget the 430 is now 10-15 years old so less in main dealers.

At the moment the market is cool; and there are a lot of sellers having bought at the peak who think they should be making money as others have by buying before the peak a few years ago. Hence some very overly optimistic prices.

But from what you said...happy wife...happy life!!!!

Good luck.

(Also worth popping onto club Scuderia.co.uk, lots of friendly people with the cars you are talking about)

takeflight · May 31, 2019

Thanks, no it’s not about making money, would be nice but never have done, so don’t expect to. But it would be nice to have a bit of fun for a few years and maybe get close to what we paid for car, best not talk about servicing, upgrades etc, that’s the cost of the hobby.

We work and have worked 24/7 so I try not to make to many large errors when it comes to hobby cars, the first one we bought could have been a mega loss but thanks to a bit of a heavy discussion the dealer who then seen the error of his ways and refunded the full amount. Also being a Brummie we do like value for our pound.

All being well paying a trip to a dealer tomorrow to have a nose.

Ferrari 308 GTB · May 31, 2019

I would wait until Uk crashes out of Brexit with no deal ...then cash will really be king.

Your petrol head missus has it right.

takeflight · Jun 1, 2019

Ferrari 308 GTB said: ↑

I would wait until Uk crashes out of Brexit with no deal ...then cash will really be king.

Your petrol head missus has it right.
Click to expand...

With our lot I probably will be dead before anything happens, I am at an age now that getting into low cars isn’t an issue but getting out is not pretty, and it’s only going to get worse. Michelle is not for waiting around, she’s still working hard, while I have slowed down and spend far to long on YouTube etc I can talk myself out of things, now for instance I was watching the differences between the pre 2007 and post 2007 F430, so now I am thinking I should be looking for a post 2007, the one we are going to see is a 2006 !
Think I will go back to bed.

A348W · Jun 1, 2019

Easy to overthink these things!

Personally don’t know the difference between an 06 to 07 430.

Hope the dealer visit was informative!

mike32 · Jun 7, 2019

takeflight said: ↑

With our lot I probably will be dead before anything happens, I am at an age now that getting into low cars isn’t an issue but getting out is not pretty, and it’s only going to get worse. Michelle is not for waiting around, she’s still working hard, while I have slowed down and spend far to long on YouTube etc I can talk myself out of things, now for instance I was watching the differences between the pre 2007 and post 2007 F430, so now I am thinking I should be looking for a post 2007, the one we are going to see is a 2006 !
Think I will go back to bed.
Click to expand...

Wait until next year when i sell my 08 f1 430

takeflight · Aug 17, 2019

Thanks all, sorry been on missing list, been dealing with life.

we are now onto a 360, am I right in thinking this is more old school, re technology?

Came to conclusion being old, but not to old then the 360 fits that bill, apart from that we just love rhe look of them.

Also any recommendations for Indy’s in Warwickshire, West Midlands, Oxfordshire.

PTG1 · Aug 18, 2019

I would say go with the 458 and ideally a spider if budget permits. I have had a spider since October 2017 as my first ferrari and have just traded it for another lower millage 458 spider with more options. They are great cars, very reliable and the prices have just softened recently, there are lots of cars on the market and you can negotiate hard as there is so much choice. There is now the option to upgrade the dated infotainment system, I have taken my car in for this and should have it back in a week or two so will then be able to comment on the upgrade.

I sold the previous one to a dealer so got the rock bottom price for it and lost £24k since October 2017 which, I think is very good going given I traded the car, if it was on SOR I would be down less then £20k

Sent from my CLT-L09 using FerrariChat.com mobile app

PTG1 · Aug 18, 2019

I do not think the 360 is the right move, maintenance is way more expensive and its old tech, 458 is when they finally got the reliability right

takeflight said: ↑

Thanks all, sorry been on missing list, been dealing with life.

we are now onto a 360, am I right in thinking this is more old school, re technology?

Came to conclusion being old, but not to old then the 360 fits that bill, apart from that we just love rhe look of them.

Also any recommendations for Indy’s in Warwickshire, West Midlands, Oxfordshire.
Click to expand...

Sent from my CLT-L09 using FerrariChat.com mobile app

greyboxer · Aug 18, 2019

takeflight said: ↑

Also any recommendations for Indy’s in Warwickshire, West Midlands, Oxfordshire.
Click to expand...

Not many options spring to mind other than Damax in Brackley

Useful 360 buyers guides both here in the 360 section and on Pistonheads in UK

A348W · Aug 18, 2019

360, read Aldious’s buying guide.https://aldousvoice.com/

Personally I think these are a bargain at the moment; especially the manuals. A great first Ferrari at a price I doubt you will loose much on if anything. (You won’t be loosing £20k that’s for sure).

As to indies, Migliour, Bob Houghtons, Dick Lovett (they do rates for older cars and have 360 service prices on their website). are all in striking distance, also Keys at Silverstone. I’m sure there are a few more towards London way.

Get yourself on clubscuderia.co.uk forum. There have/is a couple of 360s for sale recently, and it’s a UK centric forum do loads of knowledge.

Good luck!

takeflight · Aug 18, 2019

Thanks guys will look into above suggestions, not knowing much but learning. While I understand the 458 is an evolved great looking machine, the 360 manual appears on paper to meet my requirements. It wouldn’t be a daily driver, so maintainence does not over worry me and I quite enjoy getting hands on and Not to many electronics to confuse the hell out of me.

MalcQV · Aug 22, 2019

I have a manual 360 and am not disappointed. No real scary unexpected bills but with any Ferrari there will be times you have to get your wallet and maybe the missus purse out together
Depending on the 458 (oldest are 10) you buy I'm sure they will be coming into the same category as a 360 regarding maintenance and repairs.

Conversations

Alerts

New to Ferrari and need advice UK

takeflight Rookie

greyboxer F1 World Champ

A348W Formula 3

takeflight Rookie

Ferrari 308 GTB F1 Veteran

takeflight Rookie

A348W Formula 3

mike32 F1 Veteran

takeflight Rookie

PTG1 Formula Junior

PTG1 Formula Junior

greyboxer F1 World Champ

A348W Formula 3

takeflight Rookie

MalcQV F1 Rookie

Share This Page