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  1. adrian456gta

    adrian456gta Karting

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    Image Unavailable, Please Login I’m thinking about changing up my 456 wheels.
    Car currently has 18” OZ racing wheels.
    I would like to go back to genuine but want to go Bigger.
    Who has pictures of their 456 with other Fezza wheels?
    what fits and what doesn’t ?
    Do 20” fit? Do they look stupid?
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  2. arkferrari

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    599 GTB Fiorano Pent[​IMG]agram 612 wheels. 245/40/19 front, 305/35/20 rear
     
  3. adrian456gta

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    dont think the picture worked i cant see it
     
  4. adrian456gta

    adrian456gta Karting

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    See them now
    Haven’t seen those on a 456 before
    They look fantastic
    I didn’t realise they where 20’s on the back and 19” on the front.
    Nice car all round
     
  5. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    599 wheels have a 5x114.3 mm bolt pattern vs our 5x108 mm bolt pattern. Adapters are required.
     
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  6. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Forgot to mention some pros do not think those adapters have enough metal left on the outside of the bolt holes to be safe.
     
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  7. adrian456gta

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    What did you use as an adaptor? did you have to get one made?
     
  8. adrian456gta

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    could you re-drill the bolt holes in the hub instead of an adaptor?
     
  9. tazandjan

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    Do not know.
     
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  10. 308 GTB

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    Adrian, your 18” OZ racing wheels really look nice. Why not stay with those?
     
  11. adrian456gta

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    Yes I agree. I like the oz wheels too but I would like to update the look abit and I think the 19 or 20” wheels really make the 456 look more modern. My pick so far is the 599 challenge style 20” rear and19” fronts. But not sure if I can make them Fit properly. I also like the movic I think think they are called, look like 430 5 spoke
     
  12. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Adrian- The 599 Challenge wheels, and the 612 Challenge wheels, are all 20" and have the wrong bolt pattern (5x114.3 mm vs 5x108) for our Ferraris. The 599 pentagram wheels were 19" F and 20" R.
     
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  13. adrian456gta

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    Yeah ok that’s makes sence I was surprised to see 19 front and 20 rear.
     
  14. adrian456gta

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    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The Novitec NF2s are still available used in the States and Europe occasionally. They fit perfectly with just spacers on the rear wheels. My set is on a 456M owned by an FChatter. Price is usually around US $4000. Mine were $5600 new. 360 and 575M NF2s are identical.


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  16. 308 GTB

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    Personally, I think your 18" OZ wheels look better than any of those. The styling of the 456 still looks timely. Bigger wheels won't change that.
     
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  17. adrian456gta

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    THats. Them they good great
    I do like my oz but they do look little on it. If they where slightly bigger they would be perfect
     
  18. JLF

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    You can say that again. “Them they good great!”
    Hands down the best looking wheels I’ve ever seen on a 456.

    Would like to see what they look like on a mondial T coupe.
     
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  19. arkferrari

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    I bought the car as shown with the 599 wheels. I had the adaptors visually inspected when the tires were replaced; the installer said "they should last forever".
     
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  20. Alexander฿

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    Could you tell us the spec and sizing of your O.Z wheels.
     
  21. Auraraptor

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    i would/will buy a set immediately if I could find a 19in set at $4000!
     
  22. tazandjan

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    B.F.- Your rear end, not mine.
     
  23. Auraraptor

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    I don’t entirely understand but yes, I think 19s looks better then 20s personally. Anyway the hunt continues. Having a sense for what they actually sell for is very helpful, though I keep coming across 20in instead. Was there a version for F430s that was different? I seem to come across the 19F/20R more often (is front the same 19in front?)
     
  24. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Mitchell has adapters that experts do not consider safe. Not some tire shop tech, but folks that make Ferrari wheel spacers and adapters.

    OEM Wheels:

    5 X 114.3 mm Bolt Pattern



    612


    Five Spoke F 18”, R 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 18 ET 43.5 mm , R 10J X 19 ET 51.1 mm

    Five Spoke Modulars 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 51.1 mm

    Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 51.1 mm



    599/HGTE/SA Aperta


    Five Spoke F 19”, R 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm

    Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm

    HGTE/SA Aperta Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 40 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm


    599 GTO


    Five V/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 9.5J x 20” ET 38.1 mm, Rear 11.5J x 20” ET 63.8 mm


    California/California T


    Pentagram Forged, 5 Spoke 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm.

    Front 8J X 19 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 52.5 mm

    V Spoke Forged, 5 Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 20 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 52.5 mm


    458


    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5mm, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 58.5 mm


    458 Speciale/Aperta


    Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 9J X 20 ET 44.7 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 48.4 mm


    FF



    Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 53.4 mm


    F12



    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 9.5J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 71.6 mm


    F12 TDF


    Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 10J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 57.3 mm


    488



    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 9J X 20 ET 44.7, Rear 11J X 20 ET 38.5 mm


    GTC4 Lusso


    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5 mm, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 43.6 mm


    812 Superfast



    Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 10J X 20 ET TBD, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET TBD


    Portofino



    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 20 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 52.5 mm







    5 X 108 mm Bolt Pattern



    Testarossa



    Five Spoke 16”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 8J x 16 ET 34.2 mm, Rear 10J x 16 ET 59.6 mm


    512 TR/F512M



    Five Spoke 18”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 8J x 18 ET 46 mm, Rear 10.5J X 18 ET 81.75 mm


    348


    Five Spoke 17” Early, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 7.5J X 17 ET 49 mm, Rear 9J X 17 ET 68 mm

    Five Spoke 17” Late, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 7.5J X 17 ET 49 mm, Rear 9J X 17 ET 43.05 mm



    355


    Five Spoke 18”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 7.5J X 18 ET 46.15 mm, Rear 10J X 18 ET 77.9 mm


    355 Challenge



    Five Spoke 18”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 8J X 18 ET 49 mm, Rear 10J X 18 ET 77.9 mm



    456 GT/456M


    Five Spoke 17”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8.5J X 17 ET 50 mm, Rear 10J X 17 ET 24.6mm


    360


    Five Spoke and Modular 18”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 7.5J X 18 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 18 ET 38.95 mm


    360 Challenge



    Challenge Monolithic 18”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 8J X 18 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10.5J X 18 ET 39.95 mm


    360 Challenge Stradale


    Challenge Monolithic 19”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 7.5J X 19 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 39 mm


    550/575M/Superamerica


    550/575M Five Spoke/Modular 18”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 8.5J X 18 ET 43.65 mm, Rear 10.5J X 18 ET 32 mm

    575M/575 Superamerica Five Spoke Modular 19”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 8.5J X 19 ET 43.6 mm, Rear 10.5J X 19 ET 32 mm


    F430


    Five (Ten) Spoke, Challenge Monolithic, Scuderia Style 19”, 5 X 108 mm

    Front 7.5J X 19 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 39 mm


    F430 Challenge


    Challenge Monolithic, Center Lock

    Front 8J X 19 H2 Center Lock, Rear 10.5J X 19 H2 Center Lock


    Scuderia/16M



    10 Spoke, Five Spoke 19”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8J X 19 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 39 mm
     
  25. adrian456gta

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    cant remenber the rim specs and the car is currently in storage while I move house. but the there 18" with 245 wide tyres on the front and 305 on the rear
     

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