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Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s jet slides off the end of the runway and catches fire.

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  1. BJK

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    Dale, wife, daughter and 2 pilots all ok. Very lucky :)
     
  2. mikesufka

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    He has a G650 ? Wow.

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  3. BJK

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    had
     
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  4. mikesufka

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    LOL
     
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    But they said this was a Citation, and it looked that way from the photos.
     
  6. GuyIncognito

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    amazing everyone escaped.

    I never heard he had a G650. I think Rick Hendrick (old car owner) did/does.
     
  7. Tcar

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    NO.

    N8JR is a Cessna Citation 680..
     
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    #9 Juan-Manuel Fantango, Aug 16, 2019
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    How do you do that, at that level? This is how it looked when the Falcon ran off in our local town http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2018/09/dassault-falcon-50-n114td-fatal_28.html. Had something similar happen with a Lear at CAE, another one of our SC airports, so it does happen. RIP both pilots killed in these cases, so they are very lucky to be alive. Looks like the back of the Citation broke as well?

     
  9. Tcar

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    Apparently landed hard on one main, 'bounced' twice, went off the end.

    I had a CVR only, which was recovered.
     
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    The longer the stroke the slower the rebound
     
  13. GuyIncognito

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    so is this likely pilot error, mechanical failure (gear or tire), wind conditions, or....?
     
  14. kylec

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    I would imagine that after one bounce trying to land on a 4500’ runway it would be prudent to go around.
     
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  15. Jeff Kennedy

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    I read that it was 2 bounces then on the third "landing" it took out the tire.

    What I have yet to see is any mention of where the first touch down was - at the start of the runway or further down.

    No mention yet if the conditions had gusty cross winds.

    Did Junior have his own flight department or was it operated by a management company? Was this the normal pilot for the aircraft?

    I do expect some industry reporting to become available soon. AIN gives FAA reports in their daily e-blasts.
     
  16. rob lay

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    My guess lower experienced pilot to #1 such a bad landing he bounced (once you bounce once, the second ones come easier) and #2 not go around. I've seen it and experienced myself where especially a mountain approach like that you just want to get the plane down. It is like a "go around" is a failure on your part, when actually it is the experienced pilot thing to do. 4,500' runway short field he was required to make a great landing anyway, maybe extra pressure having Dale onboard?
     
  17. rob lay

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    reminds me the float plane trip my dad and I took Lake of the Woods. It was so windy 2-3 foot waves. We were at remote late and my mom said 2-3 different planes tried to take off from the base before a Beaver finally made it. We landed and I thought it was fun. After we splashed the pilot rushed to light a cigarette and his hands were shaking so bad. :D
     
  18. Jeff Kennedy

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    Cessna's website says 2,480 ft. for landing distance. Takeoff is listed as 3,580 ft.. So, this airport's runway should be more than adequate in normal conditions.
     
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    Take-off and landing distances vary with winds, density altitude, etc. Their numbers are likely no wind, sea level and standard temperature and barometric pressure. Trying to land on a short field can also be really rough on brakes, too, especially if the landing is not perfect.
     
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  21. Tcar

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    His plane is N8JR.
    Should I have said 'Citation Latitude' in my post (#8 above) instead of Citation 680? Thought they were the same thing.
     
  22. Racedrvr

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    I was correcting my original post, not correcting you!
     
  23. Jeff Kennedy

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    Model number is 680.
     

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