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Are there any mods that are value neutral or additive?

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  1. GH13

    GH13 Karting

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    The thread about the modded 360 has me thinking...

    Are there any mods that don’t subtract value, or perhaps even add some value?

    I’ve generally been a “strictly factory” person with regards to most vehicles, barring a Jeep and a Harley that I once owned.
     
  2. LARRYH

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    turning a 964 Porsche 911 into a Singer 911 adds value ...and cost.....these are amazing cars built out of an old inexpensive 911...
     
  3. Shark01

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    Replacing crappy fuse boxes, upgrading bearings, using headers with better materials, replacing guide valve stems on 355s would all be value increasers.

    Doing regular maintenance and keeping documentation is a value add.

    In the Ferrari world, performance mods are not generally the norm.
     
  4. rob lay

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    from 360 on nothing adds value in the long run. neutral mods are exhaust, wheels, and paint protection.
     
  5. GH13

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    So the exhaust is an interesting point.

    Does a Novitec exhaust actually add value? I mean, they sound insane — the sound clips of an FF with a Novitec put a huge smile on my face, and instill terror into the hearts of the young and old.
     
  6. rob lay

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    Novitec is one of the respected tuners, so they may hold value better than others. I have dozens of examples 360 to 458's where someone spent $20-50k to end up with a car that was worth $10-20k less than if they would have done nothing a few years later. The problem with mods are...
    1. much of it are personal tastes.
    2. "mods" age and depreciate faster than the base car.
    3. a car with "mods" is assumed to be abused.
     
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  8. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Well summed up. Although I’d say keep original wheels always.


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  9. BobBB

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    Wouldn’t you think a CS TCU upgrade would be a plus in a 360?


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  10. rob lay

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    maybe neutral at best, the most common mod that drops the most value on these cars is ECU.
     
  11. LP360

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    Challenge grill.

    I would say it's neutral or a very small increase, more stylish and letting a lot more heat from the engine bay.

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  12. Themaven

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    I’d agree with what Rob says, with the esoteric exception that adding (very rare) OEM HGTC wheels to a standard 575 would probably increase its value a little, although not by the cost of the wheels.

    On a 599, I’d also think that a Ferrari dealer retro fit HGTE package, typically everything except the seat emboss, would add value, but I’m not 100 per cent about that, I know some Fchatters have done it and maybe they can chip in.
     
  13. Rossocorsa1

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    Keep them totally stock. With as much modification that’s done these days, particularly on cars from the 90’s and early-mid 2000’s, it’s the pure ones that will rare and have real value, particularly if kept in exceptional condition.
     
  14. bernardo66

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    On a carbed 308, electronic ignition, where the original looks are retained.
     
  15. Simon^2

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    Silly me,... I clicked on this thread thinking it was about site mods.
    :p:D;)
     
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  16. kes7u

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    That would be an unnecessary question. The answer is obvious......:cool:

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  17. A348W

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    Heidi Klum, perhaps?

    Anything else just looses value, these aren't Lambos to be wrapped in some tacky colour scheme.
     
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    There's mods, and then there's mods.

    High-flow cats and quality aftermarket headers are a not-inconsiderable modification/upgrade for a 355, as the OEM items are known to be failure prone. Not saying you'd get your money back out of them come time to sell, but I would pay more for a 355 with those items already addressed.
     
  19. vrsurgeon

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    If you "mod" your car by telling potential buyers that you epoxied a one ounce gold coin in the electrical circuitry behind the drivers seat to help conductivity. It's one electrical mod beyond adding bluetooth that adds value.
     
  20. LightGuy

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    Tubi exhaust seems nuetral. I would prefer a car with known exhaust manifold issues to have been modded.

    Some people believe the dealer installed HGTE package on 599 adds value. I agree but not anything like the supposed 30k cost. You dont get the provenance, seat stitching and in all the cases I have seen the CF door panels. Perhaps adds 10k.

    Perhaps lowering with either factory or Novitech springs.

    Window tint.

    Clear bra or ceramic coating.

    Thats about it.
    If you NEED more performance buy the next generation model.

    Will do further research on the Heidi Klum mod. :
    ;)
     
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  21. bmwracer

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    Outside of brakes , and just about every italian car till the early 2000's has terrible brakes , i wouldn't do a thing .
     
  22. I'm 360 Canuck

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    The Heidi klum mod will hold its value just slightly longer before plummeting than the Pam Anderson mod did before it.
    Cmon guys, it’s 2019.:)
     
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  23. kes7u

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    True. And given that it is 2019, perhaps we should be using PAT (of SNL fame) as our ideal standard.

    Kevin
     
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  24. Kevin Rev'n

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    I don't think there are any that "add" value but maybe some that lessen depreciation! lol I agree that "modded" often means "messed with" but some things appeal to a very large group of owners like exhaust upgrades. Personally I might pay more for some CS trim add-ons to a stock Modena but maybe that's just me and it would have to be the right parts and photo documented for proof that you didn't just buy a Chinese fiberglass pop out replacement bumper that's way heavier than stock! I think a lot of the other things that folks do with all the carbon aftermarket parts "might" not hurt too bad either if they are the real deal parts like from TubiStyle or MacCarbon but poorly chosen bits to add to the car definitely will hurt you IMO. Carbon racing seats and Ti lug bolts also fit into the category of not going to "hurt" you on resale. my .02
     
  25. I'm 360 Canuck

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    IMO, the mods with the least likelihood of depreciation are those from the oem like wheels, grille, etc, or with a strong reputation for performance /benefits like Tubi or Hill engineering, esp if they’re replacing parts known to fail from the oem,
     

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