Kline Innovation Exhaust for 458 Italia - why not more popular?

I can't speak in regards to Kline and the 458 or Ferraris in general, but in the 911 world Kline has an excellent reputation for build quality but their exhausts are for people who want to slightly change the tone but want the volume only a smidgen louder than stock. I considered them a few years ago for my 991.1 TTS and it seemed hardly worth the effort as volume was a consideration for me. But again, not sure if that translates to the 458.

 

I have a 991.2 TTS with Kline inconel headers and exhaust with 200 cell cats

It is VERY LOUD and HIGH PITCH when you are on the pedal, but very tame just cruising around town, which is perfect for me.

Kline is considered one of the very best exhausts in Porsche land.

I would expect the same performance for Ferrari's

I installed the Forza exhaust valve switch on my 458 which sounds amazing now, so I really don't need to change the exhaust on the car

 

Hmm, it must be the headers that are increasing the volume, the header back alone on the 911.1 TTS with high flow cats doesn't increase volume much ... had a long convo with sam at bydesign about it back in the day and he confirmed this. Ended u0p going with the AWE tuning exhaust which I loved.

Anyhoot, agreed on their excellent reputation ... ultimately it's hard if not impossible to be objective about these things without hearing them side by side.

 

yes, indeed, it's all a matter of individual taste

btw I purchased everything from Sam as well, top notch guy!

 

I jumped on a Kline exhaust during Vivid’s sale. Opted for the 200 cel, valved setup in inconel. Looking forward to getting it on the car. They include O2 spacers in the cars as well for a little extra help with CEL’s.

 

maybe not on a 458, but on a Porsche turbo s, the different brands make a different sound that is noticeable

 

I don't know, I have not heard one with no exhaust

 

There’s a YouTube video by Shanon Amos with his 458 Spider that had 200 cell cats and a valved backsection. Don’t know the material he bought and the video only has sound inside the car with the roof down. Would be interested to hear that car from the outside and to know what materials he has. I’ve been told inconel gives a higher pitch due to the chemical makeup of the material.

 

yes, inconel produces a higher pitch compared to stainless steel

 

It’s stronger so you can use thinner material, achieving both lighter and higher pitch.

I ordered an inconel version of the Novitec exhaust. Will update vs stock exhaust. I have fabspeed headers and 200 cell cats (HJS core) from fabspeed already.


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I really think Kline is the under appreciated underdog. Their product and customer service is top notch, especially if you go for their inconel.

I have two confident guesses on why they are not too popular.

First: to be frank, they suck at marketing. If you look at IPE and especially Novitec, they constantly release high quality marketing videos and photo shoots, and are always sponsoring high visibility automotive events. Kline releases like one video every few years, and can barely manage their social media accounts. They even regularly post Instagram posts of cars that have their competitors exhausts on them...it’s really bewildering.

Second: Kline unfortunately has a bad dealer network. If you pull up a list of Novitec dealers, you’ll get a prestigious list of the most reputable shops in various regions. On the other hand, Kline seems to select random dealers that may have never even touched a Ferrari. If you go with Kline, 100% buy the parts from a distributor but install it at a reputable shop familiar with Ferrari.

 

I put Kline on my Tdf and love it. Yes, their marketing sucks.

 

If you’re talking about product quality, KLine is up there with the best of the best, if not the best. Their light-weight Inconel products are top notch quality and look.

I have their 100 cell inconel cats and x pipe muffler for the Scud.

If you want to be charged a high price for lower quality products because they dumped a bunch of money into marketing, then you have plenty to choose from.

I paid $6k for Capristo headers. Works well and does what it claims. No issues. But if you take a close look at the build and craftsmenship, it’s really whatevers. Similar to chinese-made exhaust craftsmenship imo. But at least it was a higher grade steel than typical 304.

 

Inconel is not only light-weight and patinas beautifully, but also has superb heat rentention properties, which is a must for our hot engine bays.

 

When I pulled the trigger for the Kline setup, I was apprehensive because I hadn’t heard much about them. Poor marketing explains that. You guys are getting me amp’d about getting this system on. Gotta get a Mase tune to really take advantage of the setup.

 

I had the FVD exhaust and Kline inconel headers with cat delete pipes on my 991 tts. It sounded great. I previously had a set of FVD headers that cracked from heat stress but since there was a tiny scrape from backing over a parking stop on one of them, the FVD people said they were cracked from that when it was clear the weld failed.

 

Many people (me also) think, that the stock 458 exhaust with just a remote control for the valves makes just enough noise. I guess that may also be the reason.

 

I’ve been spoiled by owning 2 different CS’s, 2x Scuds, and a GT3RS with a Sharkwerks exhaust. To me, the sound of the stock 458 is disappointing. But I get it’s more of a comfort car than the ones named above. That’s why I went with Kline, added noise, higher pitch, and a bargain compared to Novitec.

 

I’ve got full Novitec inconel headers/race cats/exhaust, its super loud, sounds like an f1 car. Not for all. To me it’s intoxicating. Agree, stock is weak, does not do this car justice. I understand Kline is similar to Novitec, sound wise. To my ears IPE is similar as well.

 

I purchased the Kline inconel exhaust system in 2017 for my 458. It has the F1 sound everyone is asking about. Couldn't be happier! I finally got around to posting a video with the system on my Ferrari. The YouTube story has more info.



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It might be me but I cant get their website to do what I want.
Like looking up product / model information and pricing.
The sight is covered with what THEY want you to see ( projects ) not specific easy to find areas of what I am looking for.
Not very innovative.