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Ignition thermo-time switch

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  1. ATSAaron

    ATSAaron Formula 3 Silver Subscribed

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    I heard rumors that the 2V US Digiplex boxes have a temperature controlled switch that retards ignition timing about 5 degrees until the engine is warm. I could not find any mention of it in the Mondial 8 workshop manual. Does anyone have information on it? Like where is the thermotime switch?

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    Nevermind. I see it in the diagram (item #12)
     
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    You are mixing items:

    The thermo-time switch is a gizmo used (on all version F models with CIS) to briefly connect and then disconnect the cold start injector(s) during starter motor cranking at cold start-up.

    The water thermoswitch (used on US version models) is the switch that "tells" the Digiplex ECUs (and injection ECU, if present) to be in cold-running mode or warm-running mode.

    See page D5 in the Mondial 8/QV WSM 281/83 for the note about the timing being retarded 5 deg when cold on the US models. The water thermoswitch is item 12 on page D1.

    (Although it looks to me like they mangled the y-axis labeling of the Fig 6 graph on the left hand side of D5 and 0 degrees should be where -5 deg is shown -- i.e., the graph shows the cold-running values with the -5 deg added. The Fig 6/1 graph on the right hand side of D5 looks correct for hot-running.)
     
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    THANKS Steve!

    Do you know the location of the water thermoswitch?

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    On a US version Mondial 8, the water thermoswitch (115477) is mounted in the bottom of the coolant expansion tank -- item 60 here:
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    This water thermoswitch's logic (IIRC) is: cold = open, warm = closed (on other later models, this is reversed).

    (Please clarify year/version/model you are dealing with -- "Mondial" doesn't match what's in your profile.)
     
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    Thanks again. This is a 1982 Mondial 8. I’m working on a pretty basic turbo kit. 5 degrees of retard would come in handy at 5-7psi of boost. I’m thinking of putting it on a Hobbs switch. Targeting about 300-350 horsepower.

    I also have a 1988 Mondial 3.2 that we turbocharged into a 650hp monster. It’s SNJ5’s old car.

    And of course the blue 750hp 308GTS.
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