nero would be your color Not even in the market, just following along with interest to capture some excitement & I agree. At the end of the day it's a droptop GT front engine NA V12, what other options are out there. Assuming noise is relatively unmolested (praying it's so), must be a hell of a car for a cruise on a lovely day. And I'm not even a convertible/targa guy
With declinations, if environementals rules give enough time. Watch the max rpm coming soon , work in progress !
On the issue of whether 812 will perform same w/GPF as w/o, CAR AND DRIVER Sept issue had this to say in their road test of new 911 Carrera S w/GPF: "The intercoolers have also been relocated to improve their cooling capacity and reduce -- but not eliminate -- turbo lag. From a stop, the engine isn't exactly a softy, but the real neck bending starts at 3000 rpm. That delay is apparent in our 5-to-60 mph test, which measures acceleration from a roll (i.e. without the benefit of launch control). Stomping on the throttle in that test results in a 4.2 second run. We're not imagining it. The lag is measurable and costs this 911 four-tenths of a second compared with the last-gen 911 GTS (w/o GPF) which made seven horsepower more. One possible reason for such significant lag is that our Europe-spec test car came with a particulate filter, which is akin to stuffing a high-tech sock into the exhaust stream. We won't get the filter in the States when the 911 goes on sale this fall. Porsche gives Euro versions slightly more boost and some engine management tweaks to offset the filter and promises that the US-market models will perform identically to the ones sold in Europe, but we're hopeful that American versions, without the equivalent of Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, will have better low-rpm response."
Porsche as I noted before tunes the USA motor to mimic the GPF function on the European version. The USA motor will respond as if it to is saddled with the horrid GPF added.
Did a quick scan on Google. Interesting it seems no magazines papers etc have published the leaked photo's. I am thinking they have been told to ignore "or else!"
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/images-two-new-ferrari-drop-tops-leak-online https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/images-two-new-ferrari-drop-tops-leak-online https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/ferrari-812-superfast-spider-surfaces-ahead-of-its-debut-later-this-month/ https://www.largus.fr/actualite-automobile/ferrari-812-superfast-une-version-spider-bientot-devoilee-9967407.html https://news.sportauto.fr/news/1541949/Ferrari-812-Superfast-Spider-photo-roadster etc etc
Because the PF was designed from the off as a a hard top folding convertible. Some on my visit felt it was Ferrari arrogance that they presented such an unresolved design, clearly compromised by the need to use the 488 parts bin, as if anything they present could be sold . You cannot imagine Manzoni and team are proud of the design, indeed they must have been forced in a certain direction to have a hard top and use the parts bin , they simply would not have designed a car where the buttress curves into the cabin or a solid high wall behind the seats. To see the difference you can look at the John Collins SP3JC or the TRS both maybe less practical but far far better looking. It was what I had hoped for at least. Something with some genuine wow and desire factor. Its ok, but simply ok. Some love it of course, so it is down to personal opinion.
In a perfect world the Portofino would be as good looking as the one-off SP3JC also maintaining the practicality of being two cars in one, a coupé and a convertible. Personally I think the Portofino is a good design and a better looking and more aggressive car than the California. Versatility imposes severe design restrictions and in those circumstances I doubt that even Leonardo's genius would have been able to sculpture a Portofino rear deck as beautiful as the one we see on the roof lacking SP3JC.
I share your opinion totally. It wasn’t what I was expected to see at least not as special as I would have hoped it would be. However no disrespect to Ferrari by all means and to those who love it, it is as far as a I’m concerned ok
My dealer just told me the name of the launch Grigio paint colour is named after the car - so it hasn’t been disclosed yet. Perhaps this means it will be Grigio Aperta as Grigio Spider doesn’t sound right? Anyway I guess we will find out tomorrow. To my eyes the convertible looks great and there will be nothing like listening to the V12 with the top down . My coupe replacement has been located
Rear bumper of the Porto is the biggest cheap plastic i ve ever seen ! design is a total lack of imagination with F 12 inspiration on the bad way ! it clearly don t cost his price. Porto coupé is much better, but the task was easy !
