I really think we should expose these dealers. A licensed Ferrari dealer should disclose EVERYTHING they know or have reason to believe. Maybe I'm naive, but I do expect more of these guys.
Gotta say the dealer in CA I got my '03 360 from was not much different from a local Toyota dealership. I expected more too.
The 3rd Scud I eluded to popped back on the market. Not as bad as those other two, but some concerning finds revealed by the inspection. PM me for details if you are strongly interested in it. Vin: ZFFKW64A980164633 Side note the color is: "Nero Daytona" not just "Nero" not sure why 2 dealers now cant understand this, and really limiting their prospect base...
That is being sold in GA, a google search turned it up by VIN. Been looking at that one, good to know. What are its issues?
It's in Georgia? I thought it was at Mclaren Philadelphia. Where did you go to look at it in Georgia?
So the 2nd one is at a local dealer of mine.I had interest in it until i searched the VIN here and found this discussion. Can anyone elaborate on how it was confirmed that it was resprayed? The car is in excellent paint condition and this sounds why it might be. I havent had it inspected yet either. If anyone here can post more details, i am all ears and its much appreciated. I can get the car sub 180k which isnt awful but if it has a history, i am out!!
I think once it has been tagged in a thread like this, you should walk, unless there is some extremely compelling evidence to the contrary.
i think i mentioned this in another "Shopping for a scud thread", gonna be pretty hard to find a scud in good condition waiting for its new owner. Person who would buy a scud over a regular 430 can already be profiled as someone who is probably gonna cause alot of wear on the car and do a fair bit of "crazy" driving, and i'm being generous when i say this, god forbid he mods stuff on an already "mod-ed" car. (scud is a mod-ed 430, albeit by the people who made the car). Unless you're prepared to overhaul the car and probably replace the drive train, and money is of no concern, i would strongly advise against buying a scud. Dont be fooled even if it has low mileage.
My understanding is when a car is painted by a machine the thickness is thin and when it’s applied by a human it’s thicker.
Hello Everyone, Since I am seriously considering buying a Scuderia, I appreciate threads like this that would steer me from certain cars that seem appealing at a glance. Please kindly post or pm me if you know of cars currently on the market that have hidden history to stay away from. Thank you much! Lewis
same here, i will look at the black one in Charlotte shortly but heard some scary things.. all thought nothing exactly. i understand the meaning of preowned vehicles, however i dont want to buy a lemon.
I see. Thanks. But in theory a conscientious body shop could strip back to bare metal, and repaint? I know this is a question for another thread, maybe another forum.
Nothing to do with how "conscientious" the body shop it, it is all about economics. No insurance company will pay for a bare metal strip, nor will the majority of owners. Short of repainting an entire car from a bare metal strip, "blends" are necessary to gain a uniform appearance/color to the paint between panels or one long one that transitions to a A or C pillar. So variance in paint thickness is inevitable in a repair.
Agree with this. However, touch up painting both technology-wise and skill-wise has come a long way. The basic theory is of course the same, but experienced paint shops can do it so its almost non-detectable by the naked eye, unless you view the exact spot with lighting at a specific angle. Nonetheless, you're right of course, technically heh. The bottom line is, if you're paying 80 - 200 dollars for a touch up paint job, you're gonna get your 80 - 200 dollars worth. It wont be a perfect 100% to match what it was before the damage of course. My 2 cents, cheers. Bit off-topic heh.
This is not what we are talking about. We are discussing paint thickness, and how you can detect a repainted area, no matter how expertly matched it is, via the thickness of the paint. Stripping it to bare metal, prevents it from being excessively thick, which can be detected by various methods.