Seriously man, it’s one thing to have someone comment on stuff they have experience in but then to have that person challenge people with ownership experience- ridiculous.
I’m going to type very slowly so hopefully it sinks in once and for all. When you first start the 488, it may be in auto mode and you don’t realize it. Start driving and you realize you are at 20 mph and the car is already in 7th gear. At that point you realize that auto mode sucks and therefore the comment I “never drive in auto mode” I don’t need to actively select auto mode to know that I never want to drive in it. But what do I know, I actually owned the car. Tell me again how many miles you have behind the wheel of a 488? You seem to type a lot but not anything about what you actually own.
Wait a minute. This guy from 2008 and 4.3k posts who speaks like he's owned/bought/sold a bunch of these supercars & hypercars....... doesn't own or drive one???
He does not own, has never owned and has no intention of owning any of the cars that he is an expert on.
Actually, it’s much much worse than that. He does not even WISH to own or drive one. He’s said before that no cars stir him in such a manner to merit the investment. It’s pure blasphemy, nails on a chalkboard, for real car enthusiasts. I think about getting more cars almost as much as I think about more of my wife...lol.
What a ridiculous post. I’m a little older than u but not much and if I were u I’d learn from those guys who made instead of talking down their accomplishments. Part of maturation process. I’ll get there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Guys give it a rest! If you don’t want to hear from him put him on ignore and move on. I’m surprised the mods haven’t stepped in just due to the incivility in the responses but I suspect they will close the thread imminently. In any case the back and forth is tiring and silly. You stop it by not responding and not trying to have the last word or the last dig. Focus on something interesting for a change. Please. SV
Moving on .... I honestly want to say I like these threads ... when people smarter than me talk, I listen MDS
Let me attempt to hoist this train back on its tracks. The OP asked: "There’s approximately 10 or so TDF’s listed on DuPont Registry. All but one < 100 miles. All but one asking price $1mm or more. Are they selling? Will they appreciate?" I will attempt to answer the 2 questions objectively. Question 1 Are they selling? (includes buyer's premium) RM Sotheby's 8/16/2019 $962K 1,000 miles Bonhams 8/16/2019 $907K 1,110 miles RM Sotheby's 5/25/2019 $888K 3,700 miles RM Sotheby's 3/30/2019 $975K 808 miles RM Sotheby's 3/8/2019 $968K 325 miles RM Sotheby's 1/17/2019 $1M 258 miles I would not feel disingenuous if I said they sell for around a million in the current market. Somebody said 'miles don't matter' - I find it interesting the gap between the 3,700 and 1,110 miles sample equated to $7 per mile - or around $20,000. Of course the market is rapidly changing and this sample size precludes statistical significance, but it's the best I can do with the data I have on hand. On Question 2.... Nobody knows. That's the honest truth.
And to the question in title of the thread: "Worth Asking Price?" My answer is: Yes. I base my answer on having owned one for upwards of one year now, and having driven the car on numerous occasions -- always in spirited fashion! I love the car and have no plans to ever sell it.
+1 When choosing a car, many people don't just look at pure performance. Hence weight is a valid counterpoint. Some prefer lighter cars regardless of track times. Not a secret and unequivocal. Otherwise, the Lotus Elise club would never exist. Could the 812 replacement "feel" nimbler than the 812? - Sure. However, it's been my experience each successive generation usually feels less lithe. That said, I have not driven the next gen, so I remain open-minded until I have personal experience. I definitely won't proclaim what something is *before* it is even out.
Excellent post. We must be gracious and patient when dealing with those that frame the world entirely in the hypothetical, theoretical, and the speculative. It's easy for them to fall into a naive suppositional mindset, no matter how quixotic.
