Ceramic coatings

new modesta is supposedly the best with proper application, it has a thicker coat and better shine

i had ceramic pro and was very happy with it, with the low dust CCB and the slick coating i washed my car once a month maybe.

my cost was around 1k for ceramic pro, you can put it over the clear bra too

 

depends on color. If your car is light grey, silver or white its not really worth the cost IMO as I've done them on those colors and you cant really tell. On reds, blacks and dark colors its totally worth it. If you are keeping your car 1-2 years 22ple is awesome ($500) and if 3-5 years opticoat pro ($1000)

The nice thing about the coatings is you can wash your car and use a leaf blower to dry them in a few seconds as the water beads right off leaving the car with a fresh wax look. They don't really protect your paint from any nicks or chips etc. Only films can do that, and all the coatings I know of can be placed OVER (not UNDER) films....

 

check ff forum and search ceramic across forums

 

Did the 2ple for my 991 and looks great. Just had it applied couple weeks back. $500 for the 2ple and another $300 for a thorough detail pre & after.

 

I am just in the same situation as u. I put 1 year ceramic pro on my black S550 for $350 a few months ago. I guess it looks glossier but honesty I can't really tell and my car was pretty much brand new at the time. I was about to do the 5 years protection for $2000 for my red 458. I am sure none of us here mind paying the money for our $200k+ cars, but U need to do leave the car to them for a few days for the process, I have trouble to get through it. I talked to Larry from Ammo NYC, he told me Scratch and clip will still be there no matter what coating. No coating in the industry will prevent that 100%. Only benefit is easier to clean and deeper gloss. He suggested me to get his DIY coating product called Flex for $65. He said he does the same thing, harden protection and deep gloss. Do it once a year. I am going to give a try considering his wash exotic rides though out his career.


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Larry does a bunch of work for me. anyone considering using modesta, ceramicpro etc shld talk to him first.

 

I tried out the Gyeon stuff on my wife's '16 Turbo S, and it's been absolutely amazing. Ended up putting it on all my other vehicles because of my experience. Well worth it in my opinion.

 

Nice looking ride, just.

 

The new films are "self-healing". Films like Xpel and 3M VentureShield for example. I was skeptical at first, but I saw it work on m Speciale (I used 3M VentureShield). I had a scuff mark in the film on the hood (not sure how it got there). I took a sponge and some warmish/hot water and soaked the scuff for a couple of minutes, rubbed it lightly and the scuff disappeared. I was impressed.

 

Yes some of the new films can repair with hot water or heat (from the sun or hairdryer) pretty well. I don't think it can repair a tear in the film from a rock chip unfortunately. If its a scratch or scuff it can look brand new with heat. So in theory you could film your whole car and run it through a car wash without any concern for swirls. Never done this but would be fun to try and I imagine the folks at the local brown bear car wash would freak out!

 

If you are located near the 3 states I'd recommend checking the WaterWerkzNY shop located in Lynbrook. I got quoted by various auto detailing shop and they were among the cheapest ones(like top 3). The rims came out nice which you can see in the pictures below:
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Ceramic Pro works exceptionally well if you adhere to the following:

1. Car needs to be detailed with paint correction prior to application.
2. Xpel must be applied prior to ceramic pro.
3. Minimum of 3 coats, preferably 4 coats applied.
4. Once every 6 weeks you must wax your car with an easy to apply and wipe off wax. This will maintain the ceramic pro coating for years.

 

Isn’t the purpose of ceramic coatings to not have to wax?


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Yes. But over time the ceramic will wear off. More quickly depending on exposure to weather and extent of car washing. To extend the functionality of the ceramic virtually indefinitely, the occasional waxing, which only takes about 20 minutes( no polishing- easy to apply and remove wax) is recommended.

 

So you do the correction, then the PPF, then the ceramic, then Reload on top, then more Reload after washing and then wax over the Reload - or no Reload ever just wax over ceramic?

Seems just correction, PPF on front, sealer and show wax on top of everything. Skip the ceramic. You can do a wash and spray wax a few cycles and wind up with full wax once or twice a year depending on use. Cleanup should be almost as easy but zero downsides associated with ceramic. Wheels and calipers definitely ceramic though.

 

The Ceramic coating makes the PPF invisible and maintains an incredible shine with only minor maintenance. Regular cleaning involves using simply a spray water bottle and a micro fibre cloth. If the car is really dirty after being driven in the rain for example, a hosing with water will suffice as the dirt will roll off without soap. The occasional waxing is not mandatory but it will preserve the Ceramic coating indefinitely.

 

What do you know about water spots and ceramic coating? I have been told by one (if not the) best detailers in the area that ceramic over PPF runs a real risk of water spotting from the occasional snap summer rain shower and especially from well water. Not my words but theirs. You can try and filter your home water and mess with all that but rain is not a good pH for current ceramic coatings. On PPF you can't agressively remove the ceramic like OEM paint.

Detailers will not warranty their coatings against water spots as they etch into the ceramic not being able to be completely removed. This makes the PPF more visible over the life of the film which has to come off at some time anyway. If you are not keeping the car I can see doing it and selling it off as it should look really nice for a while. However, PPF comes with the real risk of pulling paint so not worth the expense to ceramic coat it for some. There are no absolutes and each case is decided individually.

Now that I know about ceramics I have recently been seeing a lot of DDs ceramic coated. You can tell easily as they have too good a reflection and not enough of the paint making its way to your eye. Some special paints are lost in the mirror IMO. Again, case by case basis and one size does not fit all.

 

Ceramic coatings are a category, like “cars”. There are many different kinds and many different levels of quality and just like cars there are many that are designed to do specific things, i.e. work with a PPF. Both products have grown tremendously in last few years in terms of function and quality. If the car is already PPFd then all of the expensive paint correction is already done. The ceramic coating would cost less than $100 plus labor if you don’t do it yourself. One of the most expensive products is still only 350 US per bottle.


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It is imperative that an experienced and highly qualified installer apply the PPF and an expert detailer undertake the paint correction prior to the film being applied. Finally, multiple coats of Ceramic Pro ( I cannot vouch for any other coating) must be applied by an expert. Under no circumstances, should you undertake this task on your own. I have had 6 cars undergo this process. I have not had a single untoward issue. But as I mentioned above, occasional simple waxing will ensure the longevity of the Ceramic finish. The paint color will actually be deepened and enhanced with no downside.

 

Concerning the possibility of water spotting- Totally avoidable by the occasional simple - easy to apply- quick to wipe off- waxing over the ceramic.

 

How about buying an selling of a car with a coating ?

I would not buy one if offered with ceramic coatings applied … how about you ?

 

I absolutely hate to answer this (another thread) but, I would prefer to buy one already done. Nothing like it in my opinion. The new technology is awesome.
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